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August 2, 2020
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Unable to change colour science for BRAW footage

  • August 2, 2020
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Hi all,

I recently got the pocket 4k and shooting in braw I have been able to change all the settings of the metadata except for the colour science settings.

It is greyed out as gen4 and I can't change to gen 5.

Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?

Using the official braw plugin from BM

 

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 3, 2020

First advantage? The Autokroma one always just works. The BM one fritzed on me nearly continually. But I've not even bothered with the BM plugin in months, so I've no personal experience with whether they've gotten it working correctly or not. I do know that when people come here and post BRAW issues, they are always using the BM one.

 

Next, there are several features of the Autokroma plugin not found in the BM one. Such as the ability to create and use presets for different types of work. And ... they are very quick to respond to questions, and actually include a few other useful utilities in the plugin.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
August 14, 2020

Hello,

 

For your first question about Color Science Version 5, you can test it by using BRAW Studio 2.2 Beta 2 here : https://www.autokroma.com/blog/BETA-For-URSA-12K-Color-Science-V5

 

You can also test it by using the Blackmagic RAW Plugin which is free. Here same thing, you will need to download the beta for this plugin in order to test the new Color Science V5 (you will need to select : Blackmagic RAW 2.0 Beta 2 Update)

: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/

 

For the difference between BRAW Studio and the Blackmagic Raw Plugin, with BRAW Studio you will have :

  • Less bugs (Less crash, all clips should import fine, Project Manager working, ...)
  • BRAW Studio Presets in Source Settings
  • The BRAW Studio Source Settings Panel with a lot of features with BRAW clips in Premiere Pro! (Here is a video presentation)
  • After Effects support + Layer Settings to access Source Settings in AE (with GPU support !)
  • Good timecode & FCP XML Export for Premiere Pro version before 14.3
  • Metadata in Premiere Pro in the Project Panel

 

Here is an article for more explanations about these difference : https://www.autokroma.com/blog/BlackmagicRaw-Plugin-BRAW-Studio-Difference

Inspiring
August 2, 2020

Adobe started progamming a 'suite' of programs many years ago, and the genisis was around 8 bit and now it's 64 bit ( or more, who knows ). Like keep putting stuff in bag and keep designing ... so eventually there are some conflicts re: inter relation of 'legacy' and new stuff, etc. Plus, it's harder to add new stuff due to integations.

Anyway, It's impossible for me to imagine the cost and labor and skill, to do a new PPro from the ground up to clean up that programming. Lots of factors. All Adobe people are wonderful and doing the best they can.

 

 

PawanRathi
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
August 2, 2020

Please make sure you are using BRAW plugin 1.5 and not any other version.

Inspiring
August 2, 2020

sorry, don't know about that... I only have cs6 creative suite and resolve 15. He claims it's better (autokrama ? ) but he also claims he uses resolve avid fcp and stuff ... with source stuff from every known camera on earth. So who knows. I suspect he knows TONS of cool info. to help you.

Took me a year at least to learn new UI resolve stuff, but I am an idiot and do simple stuff... so it's OK for me.

I know you can export intermediate stuff from resolve and put that new source into PPro, which is what I might look into ??

 

Gotta shoot the raw as close to real WB fps, iso, etc... as possible so even resolve isn't a pain to correct you sourse stuff.  I'ts more like proxy and raw to linear and then go back to Adobe maybe ?

 

Inspiring
August 2, 2020

this is a cool question so I want hear what is going on among users.

I don't know what you mean by gen X or gen XX.. are you talking about the braw compression settings when you shoot stuff ?

Anyway, the raw has to sorta become linear and rbg ( in resolve it's yrgb ) and the color spaces can be chosen for source and timeline, etc. Sometimes it is horrible for me personally, cause I didn't light it correctly.

🙂

But I shoot to match lighting and exposure, so my fatality is the color temp as I get old and lazy ( WB and Histogram basically )

 

Theres some free stuff you can do with resolve 15 lite version ( free ). The complete ( studio ) version is about $300 I think .. no water marks or restrictions to stuff ). I use 15 cause the new stuff is competing with Adobe for the purpose of making everything 'easier' ( automatic ).

Film makers and musicicans and artists in general are younger and less patient to get stuff done.

 

 

R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 2, 2020

Can't help with the BM plugin ... I gave up on that months back and bought the Autokroma plugins for Premiere and MediaEncoder. Nicholas from Autokroma is often on here helping with BRAW queries, and he's actually the best help for getting the BM plugin to work.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
FrogerAuthor
Participant
August 2, 2020

Yeah, just seeing if I can avoid the £60

What is the advantage of using his plugin over the official one?