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Shebbe
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November 1, 2023
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Unacceptable UI performance on Windows with dupe markers and through edits

  • November 1, 2023
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I thought there was something messed up with certain files. I'm working with a project with 32b audio and sluggish XAVC MP4 10bit files. However after extensive testing the problem seems worse than that.

 

In a fully empty project making a seq with just audio gives 'normal' performance.

Adding about 20 cuts to the audio clips results in about 1fps UI performance. Tested the same with 24b audio and realized it wasn't the files but the UI itself. Then turned off the through edits and performance was ok again. Went back to the full project only to see perfomance drop to 1fps again. Turned off Duplicate Frame Markers and perfomance was okay again.

 

Performance seems to somewhat improve when there's only a few other sequences existing in the project.

 

I think the underlying issue could have to do with the amount of times a file is used in the entire project vs the check for duplicate frames.

 

This problem is present on the latest build which I tested on the side, but also 23.6 which our team is currently on. On a Mac this poses no issue at all and the UI draw is very smooth.

On Windows we can see it on multiple systems although our Windows machines do have the same hardware. On one of them I updated to the latest nVidia Studio drivers for sanity sake which didn't solve it.

 

Hope you can fix this asap otherwise we can't work smoothly.

 

Windows 11 Pro 22H2

Ryzen 9 5950X

128GB RAM

RTX 3090 Ti

Premiere Pro 23.6 & 24.0

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
November 1, 2023

@mstegner  ... can one of your staffers help with this?

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Inspiring
November 1, 2023

I'm sure there are some optimizations that can be done in the program. Hopefully, someone at Adobe sees this. I agree. It can be frustrating dealing with these issues. 

Inspiring
November 1, 2023

Ahhh I see what you mean. Yes, I do understand now. The UI definitely is laggy for some of the features. I have a feeling one of the big factors has to do with being able to detach the workspace panels and move them anywhere you want. Hopefully, they are working on this. 

 

 

 

Shebbe
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ShebbeCommunity ExpertAuthor
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November 1, 2023

Hi Dan, thanks for thinking with me here, but perhaps you don't fully understand my problem. I've tested this with an empty project with just "normal" 24bit multichannel audio files and was able to replicate it. It is also not a performance issue regarding playback. It's the UI that halts. Within that project I can actualy playback the files just fine.

 

Timeline performance has always been questionable to say the least. With 24.0 they claim to have improved this but ever tried locking all your audio and video tracks in an edit and then pan the timeline to the right? Or open up the rushes folder with all your footage and then expand the project panel to show more columns and see how smooth you can scroll through it? 

All these UI performance issues are non-existent in other software like Resolve. Adobe needs to fix and severely upgrade this.

Inspiring
November 1, 2023

Have you edited the same type of footage and audio in the same workflow before on a previous version of Premiere? 

Inspiring
November 1, 2023

It's interesting that you are having these issues though. I have multiple machines. A few of them have  less computational power than your setup and they run perfect with the same codec that you are using, and version of premiere. 

I proxy the footage though. So this leads me to believe it's not the software. 

I havent seen this issue specifically with any other people on the forum yet. An Adobe employee might comment on this to further investigate. 

Inspiring
November 1, 2023

I would also open Task Manager and see if there are any programs that you don't recognize. Specifically things that has "miner" in it. There could be a virus that is doing crypto mining without your permission. These usually work in the off hours when you are away from the computer, but then resume back to 20% usage of computers hardware during normal times. 

Just an idea. I've seen that happen many times. 

Shebbe
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ShebbeCommunity ExpertAuthor
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November 1, 2023

I appreciate your effort to make such a general guide for beginners but the issue I posted here has nothing to do with it. It's a bug or bad optimized code they need to fix on their side.

Inspiring
November 1, 2023

Your machine should be able to play your media smooth as butter without having to Proxy, or transcode footage. So my guess is it's one of these solutions in the link. 

The codec  you are editing with is not an editing friendly codec. I would Transcode to ProRes first and proxy the footage. 

This should solve issue