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July 27, 2019
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Upscale first, then colorize? OR Colorize first, then upscale?

  • July 27, 2019
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It's the chicken or the egg....  but....

What do you think should be applied first ?

Color or Upscale?

Thanks!

Letty

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Kevin-Monahan
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Community Manager
August 12, 2019

More of a discussion, so I unmarked it as an actual question.


Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Legend
July 27, 2019

interesting and good feedback all around. I sometimes work with stuff that is a bit flat even when in the right color space ( like prores or S log )  and as soon as I put clips on the timeline I quickly do a first grade ( which is just luminance values real fast, using scopes and eyeball ). Since I do that in a 'color' portion of program I consider it a part of color correction. Even though I haven't done a single thing to change any colors at this point.

So, a window that's blown out, that might make me think it would be nice to just crop that out by upscaling that portion of frame, might look nice after that initial grade of luminance values. Then there's the simple apply grade or presets or whatever that can be used by selecting ALL clips on timeline and applying that stuff.. to speed things up.

I don't upscale stuff anyway, honestly. I might put 4k in a 1080p timeline, so I CAN zoom in, but I'm not upscaling... because the 4k in the 1080p is actually DOWNSCALED.

hehe.. gets confusing.

But whatever works for you is cool !  scale away to your heart's content.. things in PPRO are so superior now with color stuff that you can probably crop and scale up from 1080 to 4k and get a beautiful product !

Legend
July 27, 2019

My habit is to do all the editing before any color work.  Upscaling would be part of editing.

Letty2019Author
Legend
July 29, 2019

Hey Jim, please give my cache settings a quick look see.....   here:  Re: Media Cache     I was looking for you!  My post is at the bottom.  I posted a couple screen shots...

Thanks!!

Letty

R Neil Haugen
Legend
July 27, 2019

Upscale. Always.

That way you'll only be seeing the parts that are being used, won't waste time on or be influenced by the excluded material.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Legend
July 27, 2019

whoops… I thought you meant like 720p to 1080p

didn't realize you meant cropping the image

Legend
July 27, 2019

plus, if you are doing any chroma key or masking to denote special ranges of tonality or hue ( etc. ) … it's a lot more fun to work with slightly blurry stuff than the original !

Legend
July 27, 2019

in the film biz the crew is usually given food at their call time... let's say it's 5am, so the caterer would be serving breakfast burritos, oatmeal, scrambled eggs, etc.  There's always eggs of some sort.

However, for later call times, like say 1pm, or 5pm, there would be stuff like hamburgers, chicken, breakfast burritos, and so on.

No matter what, there is always chicken of some sort. for later calls.

This fact of life prompted one funny crew member to make a few jokes.

Q: what came first, the chicken or the Egg ?

A: depends on your call time

Q: why did the chicken cross the road ?

A: company move

( a company move is when you move from one location to another ).

Anyway, color first then upscale

Legend
July 27, 2019

P.S.

The same joker who made up the chicken jokes went on to declare :

"Chickens are the backbone of the film industry.  If it wasn't for chickens no movies could be made anywhere in the whole world"