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Using Clip Timecode in speech to text instead of sequence TC

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January 16, 2022
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I have an editor working on sequences which includes three or four clips of an interview in sequential order. We have been using the Transcript in Premiere Pro, but after the first clip in the sequence the timecode is off in the remainder of the Transcipt because it's running off of sequence timecode, not clip timecode and sometimes there is 2 - 5 minute production breaks in between the clips.

I was thinking I could just do the individual clips then export each out, combine them, and then export them back in, but there is no outside text program I have found that saves a .prtranscript file type that I could import into the Premiere sequence. I can import an .srt file, but than I would have to put it in the sequence defeating the usefulness of the Transcript tab for finding dialogue within the sequence - and we don't want a captions clip sitting in the timeline.

Is there anyway to specify the Transcript is created with clip timecode instead of sequence timecode? Is there anyway within the Premiere Transcript window to adjust TC on a transcript? Is there any outside program that can combine a .prtranscipt and export it back out with the same extension? Or any other option I haven't thought of and already failed at?

Correct answer Stan Jones

As you suggest, I don't think there's a way to do this currently. The feature request that might address your needs is one where the transcript/caption stream follows a clip. Here are the ones I have tracked. Upvote one or more:

https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/43745805-add-the-facility-to-transcribe-clips-in-addition-t

https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/43301043-speech-to-text-transcript-for-source-files

But I'm not sure how you get a caption track to use anything other than sequence timecode. It won't be synced if it is not keyed to the sequence timecode. I'm assuming that you are using the full source transcript to find content, and giving editing instructions based on that content. But it is hard to find if the transcript timecode is different from the timecode in the sequence being edited?

Not the same thing, but I use clip markers in a source clip to make finding a clip "timecode" in a different sequence.

Still pondering this....

Stan

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Neutron03219993815tjb

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Hi! I think I found a solve for this, if you set your timeline timecode to mirror the footage timecode.

To do this, click the hamburger menu on your timeline's panel tab and select "Start Time" from the drop down menu. From there, click "Set by first clip." Now the timecodes of your timeline and footage should be synced. When you transcribe your sequence it will use that timecode.

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jacklearner

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This takes care of the first clip. Then you have to move each following clip to the proper timecode for the transcription to work... better than nothing, but it would be nice if Premiere offered that. I just got through moving clips to their start timecode in the timeline to create a transcription. A bit tedious...

Warren Heaton

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@jacklearner

This tread only applies to versions of Premiere Pro before the Text-based Editing workflow was introduced.

Transcirpts are now based on Source Footage and sync with any timeline in which that footage used based on that source.

Premiere Pro User Guide > Editing > Text Based Editing > Text Based Editing in Premiere Pro

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Al_1

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Hi guys. this one helped me to put the clips TC to the transcription instead of sequence TC . Just simply Create Multi-Camera Source Sequence with your clips ( pick Timecode -> Create single multicam source sequence). This will create a sequence with the clips timecode timeline. Then export your transcript and it will have a clips TC in txt.

Warren Heaton

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With the way Transcribe currently works, you'd have to start a new Sequence from Clip 1, set the Sequence Start Time to "Set by first clip" (a custom keyboard shortcut can be set to open this dialog box), insert Clip 2, Clip 3, and Clip 4 at their corresponding time positions (leaving gaps) and then do the Transcribe.

If you're doing pancake editing (that is, with the Clips Seqeuence stacked with the assembly Seqeunce in the Timellne tab), you can work pretty quickly while making use of the resulting captions in the Clip Sequence. It's pretty helpful if you're conforming a paper cut from a producer.

Editing post to add one thing real quick: It doesn't have to be "pancake editing". You just need to open the Clips Sequence in the Source tab (right-click > Open in Source Monitor) with Insert and Overwrites as Individual Clips set in the Assembly Sequence (upper left corner of this tab). The Captions will go with the Insert or Overwrite as well. Having the Clips Sequence open in the Timeline at the same time as the Assembly Sequence makes it easier to have a Timeline view available - but it's never more than an Open in Timeline action away.

Stan Jones

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As you suggest, I don't think there's a way to do this currently. The feature request that might address your needs is one where the transcript/caption stream follows a clip. Here are the ones I have tracked. Upvote one or more:

https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/43745805-add-the-facility-to-transcribe-clips-in-addition-t

https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/43301043-speech-to-text-transcript-for-source-files

But I'm not sure how you get a caption track to use anything other than sequence timecode. It won't be synced if it is not keyed to the sequence timecode. I'm assuming that you are using the full source transcript to find content, and giving editing instructions based on that content. But it is hard to find if the transcript timecode is different from the timecode in the sequence being edited?

Not the same thing, but I use clip markers in a source clip to make finding a clip "timecode" in a different sequence.

Still pondering this....

Stan

kittastrophyp60364486Author

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Hey Stan,

Thank you for confirming what I suspected, there currently isn't a way to to this within Premiere and a work around hasn't been discovered.

I found the feature requests that you shared last night and upvoted a couple as well as added my own. And I agree with you, this wouldn't work for a caption track purpose, but we're simply trying to use the transcription feature to full effect for a sequence with multiple clips, and as of yet there appears to be no option for changing a transcripted sequence to source timecode.

I do use clip markers! My editor is prefering the in-program transcript so I was trying to figure out how to make it best work for him. I think Avid script sync is winning this competition still.

Appreciate your help.

kitty

Stan Jones

Community Expert

Thanks for the info. Please post your feature request so we can upvote!

Stan

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