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Using Premiere Productions on multiple HDDs on a Feature Film

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October 14, 2020
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Hello everyone, I am starting an edit on a feature documentary (about 2TB of footage, will probably get up to 3TB) - we have aleady done some work on it before (for a taster tape) and already have a project file with reels, some pulls etc. At this stage the project file is small, and everything is working fine, but I have been recommended by some members of the Adobe community to convert it into Productions, or maybe recreate it from scratch. I am excited about the possibility, but the problem is that so far there is very little info on that workflow and I have quite a specific question.

The way we are working is that we are two editors (working remotely) with two gdrives (my colleague doing the majority of work, and me just playing around with it every now and then) and while we were working with a single project file, we were able to just send each other those files and it would all relink perfectly and we could share changes that way - we never work on the project simultaneously. However, as far as I understand with productions this workflow might be impossible - you cannot change the location of the production file on the HDD for example. Also, we are editing across operating systems (she is on Windows and will probably be using an NTFS formatted drive, I am on Mac with HFS+) and I guess that might cause problems.

Essentially, I am trying to figure out whether it makes sense for us to stick to our previous workflow (with the risk of the project file bloating and taking a lot of time to load) or explore the Productions option, but essentially run into problems with the two editors/two HDDs/two operating systems. Are there possibilities of the projects being on the cloud somewhere? But again, that might not be ideal as we are using normal home DSL connections...

So don't know, just interested in input from the PP masters that I know frequent these forums!

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Andy 1968

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You can use Premiere Pro projects with Windows 10, Windows 7 and Mac OS X but you need to format the hard drives to EXFAT instead of HFS+ or NTFS. That being said Cloud Storage might work best.

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Michael Grenadier

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Andy1968, are you saying to use cloud storage for media? Don't think that's a good idea bwdik. There have been some reports here of issues with that workflow. Might work with proxies....

On the issue of formatting drives as exfat, gotta say I would test this before moving a lot of media to an exfat drive. I had an experience recently where I was delivering a large video file for a live event. I had formatted the drive as exfat and the windows laptop the av guys were using could not read it. Luckily, we had a copy of the file on dropbox and were able to download it directly to the machine.

For my desktop windows machine that I use to collaborate with mac premiere users, I installed this

https://www.paragon-software.com/us/home/hfs-windows/

Not very expensive and has worked without issues for the last 6 months.

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Andy 1968

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mgrenadeir,

I did not say anything about cloud storage for media. My comment was in response to the original poster. If you have to colaborate with other people in different locatons uploading and storing things in the cloud for down load might work out better than phyiscal drives?

I use EXFAT all the time with my PC and Mac Mini.

SD cards use EXFAT. All Paragon is doing is allowing the Windows OS to read HFS+ drives. If a Windows PC cannot read EXFAT drives something is wrong with the PC. I don't doubt you could have problems with Paragon just as easily. EXFAT gets rid of a lot of the data encryption that can cause problems when sharing drives between different OS. Windows PC can read NTFS but if you go from Windows 7 to Windows 10 using NTSF you might have some issues. That is not the case with EXFAT.

R Neil Haugen

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As you are working remotely, I would suggest you try the Team Projects mode. One of you creates the Team Project, invites the other ... you both need the files 'local' on your machine, but your project file then passes forth & back on the Adobe cloud. It's got versions, is very good at handling when you've both worked a sequence and such.

There is a Team Projects forum where you can ask things directly. And go to the Team Project "learning page" to get started. They do have a pdf reference which I don't have the link for here at home. And for until next spring at least, they've dropped the added license to use TP, so it's available for all users. It's a pretty solid remote system.

I've used TP and work in Productions even in my one-man shop. Both are good. But Productions is more assuming that everyone is on the same server. TP can work better with remote work.

Neil

Premiere Pro Productions Introduction

Using Productions in Premiere Pro

Productions Workflow for Long Form & Episodic PDF

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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denisad11432051Author

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Thank you for your response Neil - very helpful as usually. So you've confirmed what I thought which is that Productions is meant for shared local storage - which isn't the case with us unfortunately.

I guess that using Team Projects will help us solve the project file issues - but somewhere down the line we will run into the problem of long loading times and projects file size bloating I presume... Which was why we wanted to try Productions. Oh well!

R Neil Haugen

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TP doesn't seem to have quite as much bloating slow-downs as standalone projects, but yea, Productions is great for that.

The way you get around that with TP is to create linked TP projects. So you can split things into subsections.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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