Working with "Proxies"

I have read this thread with interest because I have a huge project to edit and wanted to send some proxies to a remote editor to do an ‘offline’ edit for one of the sections of my film.

how do I avoid having these issues when I receive the project back and want to attach the master clips and Import into my final edit. 

Any advice much appreciated. 

I also have this issue and I did use premiere to make proxies and also made proxies without premiere and here is a picture of the timecode for each. The proxies with screwed up timecode are the top and bottom and is exactly the same between the two proxies. And the middle two files are the same raw MXF file I imported twice, just in case.

Really weird as the frame rate was correct and it wasn't an issue with drop frame or improper frame rates. But I still think it might be how premiere/media encoder was reading timecode and it wasn't using the right frame rate since there was a different length of drift in different files with different

I'm having the same issue. However, in my instance I DID create the proxies within Premiere.

If I import the proxies directly BACK into Premiere, I can see that the duration is exactly the same length as the original, but the timecode is off (by a varying amount for each clip)

This wouldn't be a problem, except these weird proxies are what my remote editor used in building an entire project. My intention was to relink the full res media upon return, as I've successfully done on previous projects. Now I have an entire project where none of the clips are in the correct place.

Weirdly, if I try toggling the proxy that is attached to the full res media, there is no change in the portion of the clip being shown. Its as if it is compensating for the shifted timecode or somehow ignoring the discrepancy.

I did a test by creating a new proxy with one of the same files, but this go around the timecodes are correct.

If there isnt a fix, does anyone have recommendations for workarounds?

I did create the proxies in the previous versions of Premiere & Media Encoder, and since then have updated to 13.0.1. Could that have had something to do with it?

Try to make a preview in the timeline and with the "In" and "Out" points export a piece of your video, if the exported video comes out well then the issue has to do with the bitrate of your video, it may be quite high and when playing it, do not do it in real time and your system is slowed down.

If that is not the issue, you will not have more to link your files one by one again. This at least is an option because if your "proxies" have the same duration, fps, resolution, etc., and only changes the bitrate and still looks different when you re-link, it means that the wrong videos are being linked and in that case, one option is to do it one by one if your edition is already done.

flyingsock  wrote they had all the exact same settings as the original files, but with a lower bit-rate. Frame rate, size, all the same as the original.

Did the type and framerate of the timecode match exactly?

flyingsock  wrote It's like the timing was different from the originals and the proxies somehow

What does this mean? The correct clip is being called up but not the correct portion of the clip?

Is this happening to all clips? Is the displacement from the poxy uniform?

If the incorrect clip is being called up, do all original camera masters have unique names?

MtD

FlyingSock,

Did you create the proxies as Premiere Pro expects them? The files should be identically named with "_proxy" appended to the name. Otherwise, they will not reconnect in standard Premiere Pro proxy workflow. What may have gone wrong with your clips can be for a number of reasons, like, identical timecode and "tape name" on multiple clips. If you want to use a traditional online/offline workflow, you need to make sure each clip has a unique name, tape name, with corresponding timecode. If you're not careful with these items, Premiere Pro might connect to the wrong clips.

At this stage, you can either eye match the incorrect clips or start over with a better process...unless anyone has another idea.

Thanks,
Kevin