Zooming and panning within a fixed-size frame

KMatthiaAuthor

Inspiring

Thank you, Christian. That worked perfectly! I removed all the attributes on the nested sequence and the master sequence and started over with your steps and voila! And I appreciated the short video also. I've learned something from each of you who have so kindly tried to help along the way and now my problem is solved. Thank you to all of you at the the Support Community.

https://vimeo.com/452706628

Legend

is this what you're trying to do?

this is with motion paramenters in the nest... Happy to share project with timeline if you like...

KMatthiaAuthor

Inspiring

I looks like it is possibly the same. What I want to do is an inset box like in this video, but with the contents zoomng and panning without the inset box growing. A box like this:

I'd be happy to look at that project file. By the way, that's me in 1943 🙂

Kurt

Christian.Z

Community Expert

working with nests solves a lot of problems, otherwise please post a screen recording of your issue

KMatthiaAuthor

Inspiring

The nested sequence is in this first export:

The master sequence is in the second export (the above nested sequence appears after a few seconds:

The pan and zoom parameters applied to the nested sequence are not being applied to the track in the master. If I put the pan and zoom parameters in the master, the inset will start to grow.

I've tried everyone's suggestions about the placement and sequencing of the pan and zoom parameters. Nothing seems to work. What do you recommend, Christian?

Conrad_C

Community Expert

OK, based on everything you’ve said so far, here are a few key things about Premiere Pro that should help you get there simply and quickly.

Nesting an image (or video) in its own sequence is instant, because if you simply drag a media item in the Project panel to the New icon, a new sequence will be created that contains that media and exactly matches the media pixel dimensions. Now that media is in a frame of the same exact size, with no math needed.

The slow part is that you would have to do this for each media item you want to animate in a frame, because each of them needs to be in its own sequence. Do not drag more than one at a time, because that would build a single sequence with multiple items (great for a slide show, but not for what you want to do here).

Once you have a sequence for each media item, you drag these (not the original media items) into the master sequence, which makes them nested sequences. This is what you have to do so that each media item can be animated inside its own frame limits.

How do you animate each? Double-click one of the media item sequences to open it, in its Timeline select the original media item, and look in the Effect Controls panel. Enable keyframes for the properties you want to animate, and then you have two time-saving choices to do your pan/zoom:

Click to select the Motion heading so that a bounding box appears around the media items in the Program panel. Now you can position and scale using that bounding box and its handles.
In the Effect controls panel, scrub the values next to the properties you are animating.

Remember, you are not doing the animations in the master sequence; only in each individual nested media item sequence. When you’re done, your animations in each of the nested media item sequences will be visible in the master sequence. You can do the nested sequence pan/zooms either before or after you add those to the master sequence.

There’s one more thing I noticed: If you have multiple media items that need exactly the same pan/zoom, you can select one of them in the master sequence imeline, choose Edit > Copy, select the others, choose Edit > Paste Attributes and select Motion. That will copy the animation to the items you selected, though they will now have the same position so you’ll probably have to pull them apart in the Program panel and drag them to their final positions. But it means you only have to set up the pan/zoom once.

This is going to be both more flexible and higher quality than rendering out video and importing it back in for each item. Using nested sequences, you can keep making adjustments to each item at any time and they will continuously update the master sequence (no waiting for rendering, no extra export/import steps), and there will be no generational quality loss from rendering out and importing each item.

KMatthiaAuthor

Inspiring

Conrad, thank you for these details. I'll try now to follow them and get back.

R

Richard M Knight

Community Expert

I would never have thought about using crop on an adjustment layer for this, works well.

Ann Bens

Community Expert

Drop a adjustment layer over the image and add the CROP effect.

now you can pan and zoom the image without disturbing the edges.

KMatthiaAuthor

Inspiring

Again, I don't know Premier as well as Photoshop and InDesign. This suggestion doesn't seem to work because although the crop does stop the edges from zooming, it also applys to the video layer that's playing below the image.

Of course I tried crop on the track with the image on it. When I do that, the crop grows with the image rather than holding its starting position. If I add key frames to the crop, then I end up having to guess what the ending point should be in percentage points--almost not possible. If there were some way to just the crop from growing with the image scale, then it would work. Any ideas out there?

So far, exporting the image and then bringing it back in again seems to be the only thing that works at my skill level. My problem is that there are 100s of images I want to put above other video -- and each one has it's own aspect ratio and pixel size.

Legend

if you'd like to attach a premiere project with the appropriate image file with the behavior you'd like to correct, I'll see if nesting will solve the problem. It should... If I'm not clear on what I'd need, post back...

Legend

build the move with the image full frame and then next it and scale it down...

Legend

sorry, I meant "nest it"