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May 25, 2026
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Are you going to include an auto button and more controls without going to other windows

  • May 25, 2026
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The color window does not have an auto button that I have found, and getting between controls such as simple shadows, highlights, dark - where is it? This is much like a watered down version of what DaVinci has. Please keep working on this - it is terrible and really limited.

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    johnk11293617Author
    Participating Frequently
    May 28, 2026

    Again, Adobe is asking for feedback and it seems the replies are from a bot so I will have fun with it and keep it going. Saying that it will be “more capable than Lumetri or pretty much anything out there”… Lumetri OK, but pretty much anything out there is a HUGE lift against what is still the industry standard with an impressive array to tools. I do hope it gets there but right now, it seems like have baked cake that I am weighing in on. I LOVE the control I have in DaVinci, but prefer the layout I use in Adobe. If that goes away, I think it is a disservice to Adobe customers that chose to pay a premium for editing software, unless they/me just stick with an older version or use another program. The shills that review it just before launch release on beta say how ‘amazing it is” once you get the hang of it - I put no stock in that. Like most consumers, I look at what works for me. I use both but PREFER the other. If they are the same, I will use the other that is a one time pay.

     

    PS - I use Adobe daily and the other once or twice a week - I prefer Adobe.

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    May 29, 2026

    Hey no worries. I’ve been using the Color Mode for what ... getting near a year now? You’ve just looked at it for a bit. Different levels of understanding are expected.

     

    When I first started with this, I was wondering what the hot holy mess was this crud anyway! Yep.

     

    BUT ... after getting to understand it’s internal ... patterns? ... processes? ... whatever ... and just working in it as this set of tools is designed to work, it is pretty amazing.

     

    Do not expect it to work in any way shape or form as you have done previously. Period.

     

    It’s a new method of approaching color manipulation and control. It’s not meant to Replace Resolve or Baselight for the high-end network-bound broadcast and streaming channels. But that’s what ... 5% or at most 10% of professionally produced and delivered media these days?

     

    And further, it’s maybe half way to where it will be within a few more months. It’s beta for crying out loud. Wait for formal judgements until we’ve got full control surface support, grade libraries, and further masking abilities ...all of which are coming.

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
      R Neil Haugen
      R Neil Haugen
      Legend
      May 28, 2026

      Alexis is not chasing Resolve. This is a completely different set of tools.

       

      What he is going after is making something far faster, more color-science correct, and in the end, more capable than Lumetri or pretty much anytying out there. I struggled for several weeks to get my head around what this does.

       

      It’s after you do that, it’s ... wow.

      Everyone's mileage always varies ...
        R Neil Haugen
        R Neil Haugen
        Legend
        May 27, 2026

        As noted elsewhere … this is a beta work in process. Of course it will have more ‘tools’ and capabilities as they become available for testing.

        Everyone's mileage always varies ...
        J
        johnk11293617Author
        Participating Frequently
        May 27, 2026

        I understand - they are asking for suggestions. It does seem that Adobe is chasing Davinci and the shills that talk about how amazing this new feature have  said that they are going away with Lumetri which I think is a mistake. Some of the changes they have made have not always been for the better.

        R Neil Haugen
        R Neil Haugen
        Legend
        May 28, 2026

        This is totally the brainchild of Alexis Van Hurkman, who didn’t just “write the book” on pro video color correction, he wrote several of the main titles still in wide use. And was the guy that wrote the full Resolve manual for what … five or six versions of Resolve?

         

        He knows more about pro color workflow than thee or me do. I only started back when SpeedGrade was still available and Resolve was on V9. I’ve had a full Tangent Elements panel that whole time … and have worked and taught both Adobe and Resolve to colorists.

         

        This new color ‘mode’ is something that when they first started the private beta and showed it to us via zoom, I thought … wow, that’s bizarre. After a week of using it, and at the time ‘we’ only had the first set of Operations … Contrast/Exposure/Balance/Temp/Saturation … and my reaction in that zoom was what the holy ned hot mess was this load of puckey anyway?

         

        Alexis laughed watching me when I walked into the booth at NAB … noting that he remembered my first reaction. Oh. Yea. I was about as blunt as he normally is. Maybe more so …

         

        Anyway, after finally getting to understand this wholly new mental approach to color manipulations … I can see where it’s going and what it can do.

         

        For instance, you can pump more color into the upper mids in this baby, without triggering out-of-limit excursions! … way past what you can in ‘normal’ Rec.709 workflows. How I dunno … but when I mentioned that in a zoom, Alexis just smiled sweetly, and some others immediately tried it. Yea … the color science behind this is totally cutting edge.

         

        And the way the tools are concatenated … Contrast is contrast and pivot … Exposure is Gain and  Black point, and so many other controls have a single click to start working two controls simultaneously, with scopes that show an amazing amount of interpreted detail of what is going on to the image … it’s an amazing tool already.

         

        After we get full presets of a grade to some sort of user library, full panel support, more obvious masking controls, and some other things currently under development, it’s going to be a stunning tool.

         

        The thing a user should concentrate on now with it is forget everything you normally do or THINK while doing color … and just play with it, watch the image and the scopes! … and add corrections and styles and presets, figure out how to use the grid to max doing batch color work … get into your head that you can grab one operation or palette by simple click-drag and apply that to a clip or a group of clips … with your choice of as a replacement, or as an addition to, the operations already applied to those clips.

         

        It’s really quite amazing once you start working as it is built to allow. And until you do, it is very frustrating.

        Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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