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February 12, 2025
Question

Can't get my colour edits to export with my file in Premiere Pro Beta 2025

  • February 12, 2025
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Hi community friends!

 

I'm a casual user of PP - I use it to edit my yoga videos for my yoga platform and youtube, and today when I exported a subclip for social media, I noticed that it was SO washed out compared to the lovely rich colours I had on my screen. The source clip is quite bright, so I edited up the saturation, contrast etc, but just using the basic colour correction tools.

 

I can't work out why it won't export more vibrantly for me, and have been reading about the gamma correction LUT? But when I went to download this from links in other community posts, I got an error 404 message from Adobe. Which leads me to assume they've done away with this.

 

I am using a Macbook Pro, and have gone to PP general settings also to switch on 'display colour management' setting was enabled. After doing this, my edit looked washed out again, so I upped all the edits on saturation, contrast etc thinking I'd solved it, only for when I exported the clip again, it to look exactly as washed out as my first attempt.

 

I haven't noticed this so much I don't think on any of my previous videos - I recently changed my camera settings to record in a much higher quality. But I'm not sure why that would then affect the edits I'm making in PP not sticking on the export.

 

I am banging my head against the proverbial wall now! Does anyone have any advice or steps to help me fix this please? I'm a yoga teacher who has self-taught editing by trial and (plenty of!) error, so please forgive me if the answer is obvious! Thank you in advance lovely humans. 

Emily

1 reply

R Neil Haugen
Legend
February 12, 2025

Ok ... color is so freaking a mess in ComputerWorld ... so first, do not expect that any two screens ever show the exact same color, as that is actually, completely physically impossible.

 

Next ... oh thank the Great Apple for their Wisdom ... as Apple chose to use a totally non-standard display transform for Rec709 video files, completely different than every other viewing system setting out there. 

 

But only on Macs without Reference modes, set to HDTV. As on those Macs, they see the same similar display transform the rest of the universe sees. To test, try the video file in Qt player, then in PotPlayer or VLC, on the same Mac. VLC and Potplayer do their own CM, they don't allow ColorSync to handle CM.

 

That's what the 'gamma comp' LUT was designed for ... simply changing the file on export so it was darker in the shadows, and slightly different in hue/sat, so that the image on a Mac without Reference modes would look mostly like a normal Rec.709 file on anything else.

 

ONE MAJOR PROBLEM!!!!!!!

 

That file will now be way too dark and oversaturated on all non-Mac screens.

 

So it isn't a fix, it's a "paliative", and only works on Macs without Reference modes.

 

So what should you do?

 

Good question. You have options to choose from, but understand, you cannot fix the problem with some Apple devices (like yours!)  showing an incorrect image. You get to choose ...

  • Set Premiere's Viewing gamma option to 1.96/QuickTime ... AND ... after doing color corrections, you will export a file that looks relatively similar to what you saw in Premiere when viewed outside but only on Macs without Reference modes ... and only in Qt Player. Chrome, and Safari. It will be too dark in VLC, Potplayer, and Firefox on those Macs, and on all other screens.
  • Set Premiere's viewing gamma to 2.2/web or 2.4/broadcast. NOT  because you're going for either web or broadcast, that's a total red herring! You set the display gamma while doing color corrections based on your room's lighting! And in a normally lit room, you should use the gamma 2.2 setting, in a pretty near dark room, the gamma 2.4 setting. After you correct your image then export, you will get a file that is too light on Macs without reference modes, but relatively correct on all other screens.

 

Yea ... what a joy.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participant
February 13, 2025

Hi R Neil,

 

Thanks so much for your super detailed reply. Oh my god, this sounds like a total freaking nightmare!

 

Since I am uploading my videos to hosting platforms on the web (Arketa & YouTube), I'm guessing my best bet is to use your first piece of advice "Set Premiere's Viewing gamma option to 1.96/QuickTime" - I'm quite a tech newbie, how do I find this to sort this setting? 

 

I imagine most of my viewership are going to be watching on either iphones, macbooks, but then some may be on other phones and browsers on PC's - so am hoping that might work?

R Neil Haugen
Legend
February 13, 2025

All Premiere color management settings are in the Lumetri panel Settings tab ... the tab NAMED Settings.

 

Viewing Gamma is one option of many.

 

For general information, no professional work is ever graded for distribution via TV/broadcast/streaming using gamma 1.96.

 

Nothing professionally produced, that you have ever viewed on that or any other device, was graded with a display transform of gamma 1.96.

 

Has that been notable to you? I rather doubt it. Because you only saw it on that screen.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...