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Inspiring
November 13, 2024
Question

Scroll bars getting too big

  • November 13, 2024
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Maybe this one is just me, I'd love to listen to other people's opinions but in my opinion the new scroll bar (idk what else to call them really, resize bars?) in the 25.2.0.15 beta are unnecessarily big. They seem to have almost doubled in size compared to previous versions.

I've always kind of had the opinion that every little bit of screen real estate matters when it comes to NLE workspaces, that's why premiere is so great in how much freedom it offers us in customising that workspace, but taking up a bunch of that space just for scroll bars is almost visually claustrophobic (honestly it feels the worst in the timeline panel - the program/source monitor are... fine I guess but something about the combination of the bottom and dual side scroll bars on the timeline panel feels like it's just wasting space).

Bars like these shouldn't feel like they're encroaching on the panel which to me they currently kind of do. Usability of premiere really feels like it's in such a weird place right now where performance is increasing DRAMATICALLY but the UI is just running into more and more small little gripes that start to add up to an annoying overall experience as someone who just has work to do.

v25.0



 


v25.2 beta



Personally I don't feel this change is necessary and is ultimately nothing but a downgrade overall. Premiere is a tool, not a toy, I really don't like the UI direction of treating it like a toy.

 

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Adobe Employee
November 14, 2024

Some feedback on the size of the zoombar above:
The size that the control occupies is the same for both scenarios, the difference between the 2 is that one draws 1 or 2 pixels shy from the edges of the boundaries whereas the other occupies the full space. Side by side comparison of the before and after shows an exact match in the bounding box for the control. Hope that clarifies the difference seen in both releases.

Tom_editAuthor
Inspiring
November 14, 2024

Visually speaking though 2 extra pixels on both sides is nearly a 50% increase in size (9px vertically vs 13px for the bottom bar) - so I definitely was incorrect and speaking hyperbolic in my original post my apologies, but to me that still seems rather *in your face* compared to previously. It almost feels distractingly large to me, I can't really put my finger on why.

To me a scroll bar doesn't need to scream "hey I'm here!!!!" if that makes sense, they should be out of the way. If the control itself isn't any bigger that is good and I'm happy to concede that point from my original post for sure, but visually speaking it still feels more claustrophobic and that it takes up more space compared to before in my opinion which still does matter I think. Esp like where I mentioned in the original post, the timeline where you have not only the bottom bar but also the one to the right of the timeline, you're visually pushed in by 50% on both sides by a UI element that I almost never even interact with at all and that I cannot make smaller or hide.

Again, I'm happy to hear other thoughts and I apologise if I sound too brash (at work so more jotting things down than heavily thinking them through) but I appreciate the insight.