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TrevorTheEditor
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May 22, 2024
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Text Based Editing Speaker Removal

  • May 22, 2024
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I'm trying out Text Based Editing in Premiere on the Beta branch and have run into an issue.

 

I transcribed the whole sequence and then made it a static transcription so I could assign Speakers correctly. But now, there's no way to just go in and delete a single Speaker like I want to since the button is greyed out. And when I click the button to redo it for text based editing, my whole app crashes (repeatedly). I think it may have something to do with the fact that I cut out all of the silence and umms, so now there's like a thousand edits and it is treating each as its own little file instead of the original 4 files it was at first. This also means I can't really do any Source editing since there's so many files (at least, I don't think?).

 

Any ideas?

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    Correct answer Kerstin Ebert

    Hi Trevor,

    thanks a lot for breaking down your workflow, I'll try to answer all your questions.

     

    To avoid some confusion, I want to make sure the difference between a static and a dynamic transcript is clear. When you want work with text-based editing, you are creating dynamic transcripts of your source clips, meaning each source clip has it's own transcript attached, and wherever you put that clip in your timeline, its transcript will follow. It's dynamic because changes you make in the timeline or the Text panel  (e.g. changing clip order, deleting parts) will update automatically in both instances.

    A static transcription only transcribes the audio of your sequence, not the individual clips. Changes that you make on the sequence after transcribing are not synced with the transcript.

     

    • Re transcription duration: it depends on how many source clips you have in your timeline, and how long these source clips are. For example, if your timeline is only 5 minutes long but contains parts of 20 clips, all 20 clips will be transcribed fully. A static transcription would be faster at that point because it only looks at the audio in the sequence, not the source clips attached to it.
    • You can only delete speakers in a transcript when you are in a dynamic sequence transcript. It's not possible in a source transcript because you can't delete parts of a source clip within the source clip itself. However, when you are in a source clip transcript, you can edit/change the speaker name (change it from Unknown to the correct name).
    • You should be able to edit speaker names once you see the "..." before speaker name or Unknown. Click on the dots, then click on "Edit speaker name".. Also, if you enable "Speaker labelling" in your transcription settings, different speakers will be detected and segmented automatically.
    • I suggest you sync your a/v files first and then transcribe the synced clip (but you can skip the "export->import again" step, just transcribe the synced media).
    • I still don't fully understand in which situation you are seeing the crash. If it is repdoducible, could you make a screen recording (including the steps you did right before the crash) and share it with me?

     

    Thanks,

    Kerstin

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    Kerstin Ebert
    Adobe Employee
    Kerstin Ebert
    Adobe Employee
    May 23, 2024

    Hello @TrevorTheEditor,

     

    thank you for flagging this issue! I have a few follow-up questions regarding the crash you're seeing:

     

    - Did you transcribe all your source clips before you started working on your sequence?

    - You want to switch from a static sequence to creating a text-based edting transcript - when exactly did the crash occur? Right aways after clicking on the "Transcribe" button?

    - When the crash occured, did you see the Crash Report window opening up? If yes, please put in your user email and send the crash report so I can search for the crash log to get more information what exactly is crashing (I can't reproduce the crash on my end)

    - Are you working on Mac or Windows?

     

    A few tips that might also help your workflow:

    - You can change and edit the speaker name in your source transcripts, the change will automatically update in your sequence transcript (this is only the case when working with test-based editing transcripts, not static transcripts)

    - In static transcripts it's not possible to remove the speakers from the transcript/timeline because the transcript is - static. Any changes you make in the timeline will not update in the transcript. We recommend using static transcripts at the end of your workflow once you have a picture lock. The static transcription will transcribe only the audio in your timeline and will not attach transcripts to yor source files.

     

    Best, 

    Kerstin

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    FelipeRossiMorgan
    Participating Frequently
    May 24, 2024

    thanks for sharing your knoledge. 

    But is there any way to delete a entire speaker with the Text-based Editing tool?

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    FelipeRossiMorgan
    Participating Frequently
    May 24, 2024

    I think the developers should have link somehow the text info to the metadata so we can easily edit by speaker inside the Premiere. Or at least make something to show what speaker is in the 'captions' pannel. that way we can edit faster and make more money to pay Creative Cloud 😄

    Ann Bens
    Community Expert
    Ann BensCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 22, 2024

    Moved to beta forum.

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