Customizing Breadcrumbs in RoboHelp7

Thanks again, Peter.

Not to beat the breadcrumbs to death, but another thing is that it would be nice for the breadcrumb to not always start with the Home link. I don't mean the name, because I know that you can modify the name, but to actually get it to start with the book that it derives from. When I think of a breadcrumb, I want it to take you back to the highest level for that particular thing/topic. The Home page, in essence, the overview page, isn't always the highest for all. Everything doesn't fall under the Home page--well, I guess, unless you don't have any folders in your structure and just have everything under the root.

Something will come together for this--just got get out the kinks, and get everyone on the same page, and to agree!

Yep. Typically, we would have each topic open with the TOC displaying, but the project sponsors and other leads want only the topic, along with the option to open the TOC with the (Show) link. Also, they want the Help to open in a skinny window on the right (like Microsoft's help), so even if you set it to have the TOC open with the topic, it pushes the topic off the page, and shows most of the TOC. Ugh.

Speaking of displaying the topic for CSH, we used to be able to do this in RoboHelp 5 with the "#" sign in the path. Someone mentioned that this doesn't work in RoboHelp 7. Have you had this problem, or anyone else? If so, any ideas around this?

Thanks,

Hello,

Thanks, Peter and to all of you for your feedback about this.

I do understand the purpose of the breadcrumbs and how they are pulled in, but for the online help I am creating, I was hoping to customize them for a couple reasons. One is that the Home link in the breadcrumb goes to the default page that is presented when you open the help file; however, if you have screen level help (which I will have), when you open only the help topic for each screen, it displays only that one topic. The breadcrumbs display in the topic and follow the folder and file structure in which you built your folders and topics, and if you autogenerated the TOC, the TOC mimics the folder/file structure, and the breadcrumbs indeed, will follow the same path. What is happening in my instance, is that the online help topic for a particular screen opens, and does not contain any forward and back buttons (still trying to figure out how to add these--without having to use WebHelp Pro). If someone uses the breadcrumb to navigate, and they click the Home link, it takes them to that default screen and they can't get back to where they came from unless they know to click the Show link to open the TOC--and even if they get here, then they may not know where to go to get to where they were. I guess we can hope they will use the Index, or Search option.

The second reason I was wanted to customize the breadcrumbs, which now, after thinking about it, wouldn't make sense, is because I will not be autogenerating the TOC. The application I'm writing help for is set up with many tabs, with tabs under those tabs, then an abundance of links to other screens/tasks. In most cases, I organize my topics in a task-based format, but to keep things organized for this project, I am using more a screen-based approach, then will manually create the TOC. Some of the members on the project see a benefit in using the breadcrumbs, but I find that the breadcrumbs may become confusing because some of the folders that I created (for organizational purposes) in the Project Manager will not exist in the TOC;however, will still exist in the breadcrumbs.

I have proposed to turn the breadcrumbs off for this online help--so not to confuse users, and several other writers in my department concur, but these aren't the people that I need to convince.

Sorry if I've confused anyone/everyone. :-(
Just trying to figure this all out. :-)
Thanks again for your time reading through this, and your responses.

Hi poverbo

You could accomplish this by manipulating the output files. You could either edit them directly by opening into an editor and removing the code that makes them work, or you could generate two different times. Once with Breadcrumbs enabled and once without. Then copy the files with no breadcrumbs and replace the files with breadcrumbs.

Cheers... Rick