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October 25, 2006
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RoboHelp unable to start Microsoft Word

  • October 25, 2006
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Running Win 2K SP4, Robo X5.0.1, Word 2003.

Opening existing project (new to me) puts Word in wrong size window (overlaps editor) and I can't get back to RoboHelp editor window (busy/hourglass) unless I close the Word window first. Closing the Word window gets a message that RoboHelp editor is unable to start Microsoft Word, even though Word was running. However, after closing Word, I could get back to RoboHelp editor window.

I can start a new project and import the .doc files. That works okay as far as the above problem is concerned, but tends to make a mess and needs lots of recovery work for things like browse sequences.

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Correct answer Peter Grainge
Looking back through the thread, the key point to home in on seems to be:

I can start a new project and import the .doc files. That works okay as far as the above problem is concerned, but tends to make a mess and needs lots of recovery work for things like browse sequences.

I take it you are in fact referring to "problems" - plural - and that both go away, it is must this project that is giving grief. Correct?

If that is the case, how big is the project if you zip it up?

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October 26, 2006
Okay, here's what causes the problem and how to workaround it.

Each of the document files uses a <different.dot> template file. Any template other than RoboHELP.dot causes the problem described. Even a copy of RoboHELP.dot saved under a different name and then attached to a document will cause the failure.

The workaround is as follows:

1. Outside RH, open each .doc file in Word and attach template RoboHELP.dot. Save the file.

2. Inside RH, open each .doc file (under topics) and then close it. You will get a message that says document needs to be saved. Click Yes-to-all. The document will close and save.

When this has been done for all documents, the problem goes away. (It actually goes away one document at a time as you do it.)

There may be a simpler way, but this is the first one that I found.

Thanks again to those who helped.

Jim
October 25, 2006
HI Peter,

Thanks for the suggestions. I have determined that there is a template file missing. I will do some experiments and see if I can get around this by assigning a different template or saving an empty copy of one of the files as the missing template. (Should work unless there is a macro in the template that is not also in the file.)

While I'm sure there would be no problem sending you a copy of the project, it would be in violation of my contract. If I am unable to solve this soon, I will request permission from the client. In the mean time, I have reimported the files to a new project and it seems to work okay with formatting (and template in general) problems.

I will let you know what happens.

Thanks again.

Jim
Inspiring
October 25, 2006
You will, I'm sure, have tried deleting the .rtf. An unsynchronised Word pane is one of RH for Word's occasional quirks and the 'Unable to open...' message can be a clue to this.

October 25, 2006
Hi Peter,

If I understand your post correctly:

1. Only this project has caused problems. (However I have been using RoboHTML for the last three years, and this is the first RoboHelp for Word project in that time.)

2. I started with Word 2000 and was forced to update to Word 2003 to get RoboHelp to open the files at all. Attempting to open the files and resave them as Word 2000 didn't help.

3. When I open a new project and import the .doc files from this project, they come in more-or-less okay (template problems), and then I can access everything properly, i.e., RH recognizes that the file is open in Word and I can change topics and files in the RH pane -- just a lot of stuff to clean up. (I'm trying to get the missing template file in case it has macros in it.)

4. The zip on this thing is 2.3 MB. (It is proprietary, however, so I don't think I could send you a copy.)

I hope I've answered your question and provided some useful information.

Thanks.

Jim (firebird.jmw)
Peter Grainge
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October 25, 2006
Hi Jim

Open a good project and this one and do the same thing in both.

In Word, go to Templates and Add-Ins. Check that both documents are linked to the same template. If not, well you can guess what to do after taking a back up.

If that fails, I am out of ideas without being able to look at the project. I know about the proprietary bit but I have had files covering all sorts of things (nothing titillating though!) and nobody has ever had cause to complain. I once had one which I am sure I could have used to get some money out of one of your banks but I didn' t even look at the text in any depth.

It's your choice but the content is of no interest to me, it's the problem I want to resolve. Then the files will be deleted.

A zip file that size is OK with my email.

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October 25, 2006
Hi Rick,

You're absolutely right about Blue Sky. In the beginning, RoboHelp was not the best product, but it had better marketing on the enterprize level so I wound up having to use it.

Hi Peter,

(By the way, this is a stand-alone machine on a home network and I am the only user for this particular machine. I run from a renamed admin account.)

The Help menu indicates that there are no available updates. I have checked everything on your site that seemed to have ANY relevance at all. (Thanks for a great site.) I didn't find anything under either print or install that helped, but I may not have thought how you might index this problem. I have also checked all the topics in this forum without finding anything on this particular problem.

In the mean time, the overlap seems to be gone (i.e., the window position is now as it should be), but I'm still locked out of the RoboHelp pane whenever Word is open (by RH) and I still get the "unable to start Microsoft Word" error message after I close Word. RH doesn't seem to be getting the message that Word has opened the requested file.

Thanks for the effort you are putting in on this.

Peter Grainge
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October 25, 2006
Looking back through the thread, the key point to home in on seems to be:

I can start a new project and import the .doc files. That works okay as far as the above problem is concerned, but tends to make a mess and needs lots of recovery work for things like browse sequences.

I take it you are in fact referring to "problems" - plural - and that both go away, it is must this project that is giving grief. Correct?

If that is the case, how big is the project if you zip it up?

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October 25, 2006
Hi Peter,

I have been using RoboHelp since it was Waxtech, eHelp, Macromedia, and now Adobe.

This is just a transferred project from another writer at another company. I had to uninstall RH first, install Word 2003, update Word 2003 with service packs, and then reinstall RH 5.0.1. (I have been using Word 2000. Install CD is already 5.0.1 for Word 2003.)

This seems to be something peculiar to this system as I have been told the same project works okay on another system. Some communication between Word and RH seems to be getting lost, possibly due to a wrong registry setting. Not much chance of finding it here short of doing a complete reinstall of the OS, so I'm hoping somebody else might have some ideas.

Thanks.


RoboWizard
Inspiring
October 25, 2006
Hi firebird.jmw

Just a bit of clarification on your historical data. I don't believe RoboHelp has ever been part of "WexTech". If I recall correctly, WexTech ( Steve Wexler I believe) was responsible for marketing a RoboHelp competing product called "Doc-to-Help". It is now owned by ComponentOne.

I believe the correct sequence of owners was as follows:

Gen Kiyooka - RoboHelp creator > Blue Sky Software > eHelp > Macromedia > Adobe

Sincerely... Rick
Peter Grainge
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October 25, 2006
I wasn't suggesting you were new to RH, just questioning whether you were using a new installation.

Have you applied the RH service pack which you can access via the Help menu?

Also see Print Issues on my site. Some of the problems there may be relevant.

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Peter Grainge
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October 25, 2006
Welcome to the forum.

You say the project is new to you which makes me wonder if you are a new user to the installation of RH? If it was installed for someone else on the PC and you have now inherited that PC, RH needs to be uninstalled and reinstalled with your logon.

There's a topic on my site about that. Click here.

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