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To Photoshop or not :P

Forum|Forum|8 years ago
June 26, 2017
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We all know Adobe hates us using it this way, but who else reckons John Knoll is the one that started the trend of using it as a verb?

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JR Boulay

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I am a shameful ACP, I have long hesitated between "Photoshopping" and "Photoshopage" (in French): Avant-Après

Avant-Après = Before-After

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Legend

I think you mean (or I choose to correct) that it's all copyright but there is only a copyright challenge/takedown in certain cases. Copyright doesn't go away like trademarks, until its time is up. It's just that many creators tolerate, for a variety of reasons, widespread copyright theft on the internet. AND with Youtube and some other cases there is the further complication that the creator can choose to get the money from the adverts. Thus, one person's copyright theft becomes a creator's source of income. The creator may, or may not, be happy at this.

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Katie Houghton

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Trademarks live forever. Copyright expires. From the US government trademark site:

Unlike patents and copyrights, trademarks do not expire after a set term of years. Trademark rights come from actual “use” (see below). Therefore, a trademark can last forever - so long as you continue to use the mark in commerce to indicate the source of goods and services.

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Legend

Sure, everyone knows the PDF viewer is called "Adobe".

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Test Screen Name

Legend

One of the stranger verbs these days though is PDF as in "I need you to PDF that for me".

JR Boulay

Community Expert

We do not have this problem with Acrobat.

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Nexahs1138Author

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Pffft you mean the PDF viewer? I doubt people even know that has a name

c.pfaffenbichler

Community Expert

Pffft you mean the PDF viewer?

Acrobat (as opposed to Acrobat Reader) is not just a PDF viewer but a PDF editor …

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

It's the same as

to Xerox

to microwave

to nuke

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jane-e

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Nancy+OShea wrote
It's the same as
to Xerox
to microwave
to nuke

Nancy, Xerox is trademarked; microwave and nuke are not.

Victory for Xerox as IPAB upholds its trademark status | Newsletter 40 - S.S.Rana & Co.

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

jane-e wrote
Nancy, Xerox is trademarked; microwave and nuke are not.
Victory for Xerox as IPAB upholds its trademark status | Newsletter 40 - S.S.Rana & Co.

Yes. Xerox is trademarked. But Nuclear is an adjective and Microwave is a noun yet we treat them as verbs.

And sometimes we convert adjectives to nouns as in Going Postal (losing control in the workplace).

Nancy

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Peru Bob

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Since this is not a request for technical help, I've moved this to the Lounge Forum.

Nexahs1138Author

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It was a general discussion about Photoshop

Peru Bob

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Sorry. I guess my post was a bit terse.

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Katie Houghton

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I think we are stuck with the usage... it has made it to mainstream. Will & Grace used it years ago in an episode!

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Legend

This seems a particular habit of American English, to turn a perfectly good noun into a verb. Owners of trademarks hate it because it's one step to losing it. In Britain we are not immune, as the verb "to hoover" comes from a popular brand of vacuum cleaner but is used for all of them in the way Adobe don't want to see "to Photoshop" being used.

As Calvin said, "Verbing weirds language".

Nexahs1138Author

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I love the hoovering one (Irish here btw) I didn't know hoover was a brand and not a general word until I was 15... and I had a Hoover washing machine during those years TBF the Knoll brothers invented the software and I doubt they have a problem with it at all.

To verb or not to verb, that is the irony.

c.pfaffenbichler

Community Expert

Seems it’s already listed as a transitive verb on Merriam-Webster’s …

Photoshop | Definition of Photoshop by Merriam-Webster

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