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October 25, 2010
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Adobe Garamond Expert?

  • October 25, 2010
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I've used AGaramond for 20 years. All of a sudden in Mac Leopard (10.5.8) AGExpert no longer works. Adobe Garamond Regular, Alternate, Titling, etc all work fine, but the Expert fonts (small caps, old-style numbers, ligatures, etc) no longer work (Expert Regular, Semi or Bold). They come up blank. In Font Book, they are all noted as Active, but the characters are blank.

Is there a solution? I know that Adobe now sells all these fonts as a family instead of how I originally purchased them. Do I have to now re-purchase the font that I have imbedded in thousands of documents?? Will the newer "family" version of Adobe Garamond (that contains all the expert and alternate characters) work, or will I continue to have problems?

Thanks.

Expert still works in 10.4.11 in most programs including Quark XPress. However, even Adobe Garamond doesn't work in Apple's Pages . . . there, it's a conglomeration of regular and strange alternate glyphs.

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    Thomas Phinney
    Inspiring
    October 25, 2010

    I don't know when Apple started treating the encoding of expert fonts differently, but I don't think this is going to be treated as a bug anybody will be much interested in solving. PostScript Type 1 fonts are on their way out, and expert fonts in particular are all but dead.

    The "modern" way of accessing "expert" glyphs is to reference the base glyph, plus formatting, and use an OpenType font. So instead of switching fonts you use Adobe Garamond Pro for the whole thing, and format small caps as small caps, and the application and the font take care of it. Same for say the ffi ligature. This has some real advantages, because the underlying text for "office" with an ffi ligature is still "office" instead of "oWce" which is kinda obviously better for search, spell check, or changing fonts.

    Adobe has been selling and bundling Adobe Garamond Pro for about a decade now. Its special alternate glyphs work very nicely in InDesign, Pages and QuarkXPress.

    Cheers,

    T

    Thomas Phinney

    Sr Product Mgr, Fonts & Typography

    Extensis

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    Thomas Phinney
    Inspiring
    October 25, 2010

    And just to be clear, Adobe Garamond Pro has all the alternate glyphs that were formerly in supplemental fonts (Titling, Expert, etc.).

    There isn't any direct upgrade path, but as Adobe Garamond Pro is bundled with many Adobe applications you may find some cost-effective ways of getting it, such as buying an Adobe app or app upgrade you were interested in anyway.

    Cheers,

    T

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