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June 18, 2007
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Hebrew fonts?

  • June 18, 2007
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I am in N. America trying to purchase a Hebrew font for use in creating some bilingual documentation for a product my company will sell. We are trying, if possible, to use a Hebrew typeface that would be considered "compatible" with Frutiger. Problem is, I am not finding any Hebrew fonts at all on Adobe's website as is presented to me in N. America. Does Adobe have any Hebrew fonts? How can I access and purchase them?
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Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
Who said that Zvika worked on Shabbat?

What do you mean? Why can't an Israeli business do font work at home on Shabbat. And then, on Yom Reeshon, take the font to the business.
Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
Who said that Zvika worked on Shabbat?

In every Adobe PostScript font, there is a record of the creation date, day and hour, and also the same for its last modification.

Most of his stuff were created and modified on Shabbat. Check for yourself. Its there; can't hide the evidence later.

Now, to publish non-sacred materials, like a newspaper, who cares?

But holy seforim, only the Mizrachi would matir it, because of hesaron kees.
Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
> never thought of it. I could build it into the font. Plus John has every appearance of anything in a database. So thefont can automatical switch appearance based upon the context or necessity. Do you understand?

yes
Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
>Koren didn't do this, and inconsistantly places the nikkud sometimes abover the baseline,

What? no he doesnt. The nikud is always in the same place below the baseline. He also puts the kamatz and shva on the chaf sofi under the baseline although modern printing always put it higher, but this was done on purpose by him because he believed that this was correct (personally I disagree, but hes dead so I cant argue with him).
Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
I typeset stuff in Arabic which I dont understand, however, I think I would do a better job if I did since I would then know certain rules like you cant have "and" at the end of a line (or is it at the beginning, I forget), but since I dont recognise the word for "and" in Arabic, I ignore it. I think you will do a better job if you understand better what you do. Perhaps not the end of the world when typesetting instructions for some product in Arabic, but for some products, I think it is important.

I agree with you. Sometimes, you're right. :) But I'd take the job anyway, like you did. When I visited Adobe in Palo Alto (remember when, John W.?), I was told by an Adobe manager: "When you have a deadline, you just sh...t the stuff out." :)
Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
(never mind ktiv and kri)

I never thought of it. I could build it into the font. Plus John has every appearance of anything in a database. So thefont can automatical switch appearance based upon the context or necessity. Do you understand?
Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
I agree, however in the case of Hebrew fonts look at Microsoft. They have a version of Vilna with trop but you cant have trop after a chaf sofi with a kamatz. They built opentype tables which were just wrong because they dont understand how a Bible is typeset (never mind ktiv and kri).

I placed nikkud above the baseline, and always placed the taamin below the baseline in chof-sofi and dagesh chof sofi, even though I could not find a precedent. John Hudson then questioned my action by pointing out tthgat there was no tradition to support this decision.

Koren didn't do this, and inconsistantly places the nikkud sometimes abover the baseline, and sometime below the baseline without any rule or logic. My positioning had rhyme and reason. Perhaps I was arrogant in my making a decision, or perhaps G-d agrees with me, and Koren made a blunder.
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April 30, 2008
>only Niturei Karta would say it treif, and they' wrong. Most religious Jews love the state of Israel dearly, wherever they may be found in the world.

Aha, so you would buy a siddur that tells you to say Hallel on Yom Haatzmaut? And that the State of Israel is reshit zmichat geulatenu?
Participating Frequently
April 30, 2008
>What's that? Like Rabbi Breur of Washington Hts, NY?

HaRav Breuer z"l (check wikipedia for a full article and picture), is widely regarded as the world expert on Tanakh. He was not a fan of Koren to put it mildly.

The Bible editions of Mossad HaRav Kook and Chorev are based on his teaching. There is also a very interesting red Bible which is also based on Breuer but thats a whole other story....

Anyway, although Breuer is accepted by acedemia and the Gush, it hasnt gained full acceptance like Koren did, which is why Koren is bought by everyone from the secular, to the national religous to the charedim.

However, Breuer must not be ignored and our in-house Rav was a student of Breuer.
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April 30, 2008
in Bnei Brak they will only buy our Tanakh but wont touch our treif siddur (it has the prayer for the state of Israel in it)

Raphael, you're bigger than this.

To mention the state of Israel in a prayer is not treif. On the contrary, every Jew must pray for well-being of the country in which they live.

only Niturei Karta would say it treif, and they' wrong. Most religious Jews love the state of Israel dearly, wherever they may be found in the world.

Everybody knows that!

You are sounding anti-religious with such a remark. First, you don't bite the hand that feeds you. And by speaking positively instead, hilunim think about what you say, and become positive too.