Hebrew fonts?

>I should make an authorized "legal" lsham shamayim without hilul shabbat, make it shareware, and post it on the Internet, with taamim as Romm Vilna used it.

And well sue the pants off you if you do! LOL

they prefer Breuer

What's that? Like Rabbi Breur of Washington Hts, NY?

>I chose the latter most because my desire is that these fonts should be used to recreate the classic library, preferably in the Romm Vilna design, as in my view there is nothing superior.

Well so did I for Koren. But many people out there dont have a big budget so they choose the script method which gives the same result but of course means that the positioning is coded into the InDesign file rather than into the font.

based on the number of illegal renditions of it :-)

I should make an authorized "legal" lsham shamayim without hilul shabbat, make it shareware, and post it on the Internet, with taamim as Romm Vilna used it. :)

>the shva should sit under the foot of the resh and dalet (and not in the middle)
>Tzvika told me in 1987 or 88 that the shvah or hirik should NOT sit under the bottom tip, so as not to visually confuse the viewer that the letter in question, the reish or dalet, is actually a little, as if no kid ever learned alef bais. And he's making the Koren font.

If Zvika told you that then hes wrong wrong wrong.

Zvika drew the Koren font based on the original drawings that we have in the office. He did it according to my and Esther Beers specifications.

He did not, and I have already mentioned this in this thread, program the font. Nor did he decide the correct positioning. This was decided by myself and Esther (well technically it was all decided by Esther since she taught me the system).

Masterfont also has the exclusive licence to sell the Koren font, but again he isnt programming it. Arieh is.

This is a programming challenge and this can either be solved by moving the diacritics, either manually or by a script (my system) or by programming the font (ultimately the best, but most expensive way).

I chose the latter most because my desire is that these fonts should be used to recreate the classic library, preferably in the Romm Vilna design, as in my view there is nothing superior.

>It cause me to totally rethink everything. I looked at it before not from that view, but rather from the point of view of design. Now, I have to look at the whole subject this way of subdiving the issues into two approaches, with a third possibility which I assume contains the first two.

Ill let Harbs divulge his system to the world if he so likes. In terms of the Koren system, it assumes that the consonents are primary, the nikud, secondary and the trop, tertiary.

The way that it works is as follows:
1. The nikud is first correctly positioned under the letter.
2. The trop is then correctly positioned with respect to the nikud.

Now, when I say "correctly" that is where the design aspect comes in. For example, how do you position a mercha under the foot of the resh when there is no nikud? And what about the tvir. However, Ill leave that for you to think about.

Then we have to deal with collisions. The Koren system goes as follows:
1. can we nudge the nikud by a small amount to solve the problem. If we can, then great and that is what is done.
2. can we nudge the nikud on the letter and then the nikud on the following letter by a small amount to solve the problem?
3. if we cant do 1. and 2. (ie it would have to be a large amount), then we dont move the nikud at all and we move the trop.
4. sometimes we have to do 1., 2. and 3.

Lot of work, but the results are fantastic.

the trop should not overlap the nikud

In good design, no graphic element should overlap another element. Except when its intentional, like very tight kerning to create a certain graphic effect.

the shva should sit under the foot of the resh and dalet (and not in the middle)

Tzvika told me in 1987 or 88 that the shvah or hirik should NOT sit under the bottom tip, so as not to visually confuse the viewer that the letter in question, the reish or dalet, is actually a little, as if no kid ever learned alef bais. And he's making the Koren font.

You are right. I dont like what you have just said. Who said that Zvika worked on Shabbat? A little bit of motzi shem ra there?

Again, lets try a bit of respect here. Lets assume that he didnt work on Shabbat which is of course against halakha and in this country also against the law.