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Windows 10 Creators Update made all my PostScript (Type 1) fonts unavailable

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May 25, 2017
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I just installed the Windows 10 Creators Update, and now my PostScript fonts are no longer accessible to InDesign CS3. I am particularly concerned about BemboSC (small caps and italics), which I use constantly. The font shows up as missing when I open the file and the program wants a substitute. It is not listed in the dropdown font menu.

The .pfb and .pfm files are in the psfonts directory I can double click the .pfm file in the pfm subdirectory and get a display of the font. When I click "Install" it says the font is already installed. I told it to overwrite. No luck. I rebooted. No luck. When I look at Control Panel > Appearance and Personalization > Fonts, the font is there. (Probably irrelevant: Before the reinstall it was not available in Word; after the reinstall it appeared in the list, but when I tried to apply it, it appeared as generic sans-serif.)

At this point I would be okay with buying a new OpenType version of the font, as long as it would seamlessly replace the old one--the problem is the small caps and italics were variants of the same font type, and I don't want to have to go through and replace every instance. (I believe I bought the font from Adobe in the first place--it was back in 2007 or so.)

Does anybody have any information about this? Is there any way to fix this problem? Is there an exact OpenType equivalent of bmrsc___.pfm?

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Correct answer lew_shiner

I was able to (mostly) solve my problem by buying a new Adobe Bembo Italic font. I already had an open type Bembo Regular font, and it turns out the small caps feature is accessible all the way back in InDesign CS3. The only remaining problem is that I should be able to get italicized hanging figures from the Italic font by using the small caps feature, but it doesn't work.

steve101000--when I tried to download the file you sent me, my browser got hijacked by malicious sites. You are correct about my being able to access the extended characters in InDesign CS3, however, so I'm marking this as solved.

Thanks, all.

Dov Isaacs

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To be very clear and on behalf of Adobe …

There is absolutely no change in support for Type 1 fonts in the “Creator's Update” to Windows 10. Type 1 fonts install and are accessible in the same manner as they have been installable in Windows 7, Windows 8.x, and earlier versions of Windows 10.

That having been said, the CS3 versions of Adobe applications haven't been tested under any version of Windows 10, much less even Windows 7 or 8.x. They haven't been supported by Adobe in many years and in fact may have issues in terms of dealing with system functions including fonts, drivers, installation, etc.

- Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)

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Ambrosial_life15C2

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Sorry Dov but you are incorrect. Type 1 fonts do not install in the same manner as windows 7&8. Installation is not even available for PostScript fonts in the usual ways.

I suppose if you can find a way to actually get the Type 1 font installed, Adobe products will still see/utilize them as before, but Windows 10 makes this very challenging, if not impossible.

The only method that seems to work is to drag-and-drop the font file(s) directly into C:\Windows|Fonts folder. You will get a lot of errors, but the fonts seem to install.

Dov Isaacs

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No, my information is indeed correct. Wherever you have your Type 1 fonts (you must have both the .pfm and .pfb files in the same directory), right click on the .pfm file and select Install. That will copy the fonts into the Windows font directory and properly register them. Just tried it with the latest updated version of Windows 10. It works!

Perhaps something is corrupted in your Windows 10 installation.

By the way, Type 1 fonts are not the only form of PostScript fonts. TrueType fonts are also PostScript fonts. Adobe PostScript has natively supported TrueType fonts as Type 42 fonts for over 20 years now.

- Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)

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lew_shinerAuthorCorrect answer

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I was able to (mostly) solve my problem by buying a new Adobe Bembo Italic font. I already had an open type Bembo Regular font, and it turns out the small caps feature is accessible all the way back in InDesign CS3. The only remaining problem is that I should be able to get italicized hanging figures from the Italic font by using the small caps feature, but it doesn't work.

steve101000--when I tried to download the file you sent me, my browser got hijacked by malicious sites. You are correct about my being able to access the extended characters in InDesign CS3, however, so I'm marking this as solved.

Thanks, all.

Robert Solo

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Don't know if you've solved the problem elsewhere yet, but I just got this from the Microsoft Technet Forum and it seems to have worked for me in Photoshop CC 2017:

Hope it helps.

Cheers.

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lew_shinerAuthor

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Sorry, but I had already tried this and it was no help.

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steve10100

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Alternatively, you might ask Adobe staff if your Type 1 EULA permits the use of a font converter to transform your fonts to OpenType-format. Results are usually lossless (exact equivalents) if you are converting from PC-PS-Type 1 to OpenType CFF.

If you do invest in a license for the current OpenType version of Adobe Bembo you will find that the SC/OsF & Expert Set glyphs are all contained within one and the same font. However, these extended characters are only accessible when using OpenType savvy applications, so may not present themselves as the seamless replacement you desire.

PM me if you need further information.

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lew_shinerAuthor

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Apparently the answer is: I need to replace all my Type 1 fonts with OpenType fonts.

The problem is: I can find an Adobe Bembo Italic, but I have not been able to find an Adobe Bembo Small Caps (and Old Style Figures). Does anyone know if these exist in OpenType format? There is a Monotype Bembo Book version that has both italic and SC, but of course it is not quite the same as the Adobe. I would prefer the Adobe if it exists--please let me know if it does, and send a URL where I can buy it.

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