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Abandon hope all ye who enter here...

Forum|Forum|16 years ago
September 6, 2009
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Your post, your thread, you identity may be:

1/ Deleted

2/ Locked

3/ Moved

4/ Subjected to various other fates

(The above is in alphbetical, not order of importance.)

It's very strange... i've been a visiting these forums since about 1999. Photoshop and Dreamweaver (yes, i know that DW was different and amalgamated only a few years ago).

Was always an NNTP user, except for the Illustrator (Windows) web forum which i started frequenting in 2005.That particular forum i always visited through the web interface. Why? Not sure. A different experience... less posts than in the PS and DW forums made it viable.. ??

So, it's about 10 years...

In all those years i have never come across the sheer hostility, arrogance, blinkered thinking and knee-jerk reactions that seem to be the hallmark of the moderators in this forum. They don't seem to think, they don't seem to care. Most of all they don't seem to realise that at least about 80% (correct me if i'm wrong) are old timers letting off steam... old timers, frustrated with the nonsense that is the NEW web forums.

Instead of sympathy and understanding, an attempt to approach the powers that be in Adobe, we have a bunch of jokers, so thrilled with being appointed moderators, so full of themselves, (i imagine) that they're running around and either deleting or locking everything in sight. In other words, they're trying to be more loyal than the Queen!

What a farce... what a nonsense.. most tragically of all, what a travesty...

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Fr__Watson

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I am logging in only because I see that Dave has apparently decided he, too, has had enough.

In all those years i have never come across the sheer hostility, arrogance, blinkered thinking and knee-jerk reactions that seem to be the hallmark of the moderators in this forum.

Nope, me neither. It is almost as though someone has said to these moderators (of whom Jochem van Dieten is by far the worst) "Go ahead, do what you want. Treat all those troublesome (and even the not troublesome) old-timers with maximum disrespect and hostility. Show absolutely no professionalism in your conduct in any way whatsoever: we shall not call you to account or discipline you in any way." It is astonishing.

The behaviour of Mr. van Dieten especially is repugnant. I would suspect him of being a machine, he is so without humour or anything faintly resembling human warmth, except that machines are not childish, pompous, or vindictive as he has repeatedly shown himself. While I generally don't hold with wishing ill upon people, it is still tempting to wish that he should come down with some affliction that is painful, disfiguring, and eventually fatal.

Anyway, for any old timers who are left, I suggest you ditch this place. Adobe corp obviously does not value your contribution.

For myself, I will always be thankful that there was a community here at a time of my life when I needed it; I mourn the loss.

Ozzwoman9

Inspiring

For some reason the word hemorrhoid pops into mind

I too agree. The only reason I still patrol here is because I kill time while at work. If I were allowed to be on Facebook at work I would be there instead.

And to top things off, I didn't change the subject line when posting, but it now reads "yreas" on my post ????

Claudio González

Legend

Ozzwoman9 wrote:
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And to top things off, I didn't change the subject line when posting, but it now reads "yreas" on my post ????

Don't you dare to suggest it wasn't your fault. It must have been; there is no other possible explanation. The client/user is always the culprit here.

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Anonymous

This is by far the worst forum experience on the web.

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Anonymous

Buko. wrote:
This is by far the worst forum experience on the web.

know what? whatever.

it's just not our forum experience anymore. the community that existed here for decades (going back to compuserve) has been effectively, ruthlessly destroyed.

you win adobe. whatever.

for all intents and purposes adobe (through their representatives) have driven too many good people away. they've changed their forum focus from a collaborative place where users of all levels could share and learn from one another, to one where newbies come to get answers to "yes or no" and "how do i" questions (and in more and more cases "why doesn't the software work?" questions).

there's nothing here anymore for more advanced users. as others have pointed out (ramon and john j off the top of my head), the main reason for advanced users to keep coming and helping with the newbie questions has never been all altruistism, although there's a healthy dose of it. it's because during the process, we more (intermediate to) advanced users were also able to share and learn by interacting with other advanced users.

as we all know by now, 6 months down the road, this jive clearspace forum software is designed SPECIFICALLY to suppress that kind of interaction.

so be it. it's their forums and that's apparently the way they want them.

i'm done with this:

they don't care, so neither do i. so ...

whatever.

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Anonymous

Soon the robots and the exspurts will have the field to themselves.

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Anonymous

agree

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