Banned again ;-)

The only sour notes around here are those that are directly caused by the comments of the so called "Community Experts" — and this has been the case since they first made their appearances in the Formerly-Adobe Forums.

Their attitude may have worked for Macromedia's customers but I kept well clear of the Macromedia Forums as much as possible because they provided such an unpleasant environment and most of the answers provided were either non-existent or wrong.

I suggest that the situation would be vastly improved in both this Forum and the Formerly-Adobe Product Forums if these obnoxious "Community Experts" would just absent themselves and leave us in peace.

From postings in recent threads, it is very clear that their presence is extremely unwelcome here.

Who knows, but if those "Community Experts" departed, you might even get a few of the former contributors to the Formerly-Adobe Product Forums to return and help in those places again.

Hi all...

This is all so boring and so infantile... JVD talks of creating new log ins by a banned person and therefore tha person is banned again ... oh well... but no mail is sent informing an individual they've been banned from posting, the reason, nor how long that ban will last...

In the Jhabrix cases, seems they ran foul of JVD. 'Cos they were objecting to his high-handedness. Funny... the original Jhabrix has been posting since 2003 or even before... no one ever complained. He's posted in the product forums and no one has complained... he's now been banned... victimised is more like it, because a certain mod doesn't like being questioned. Ann Shelbourne, amongst numerous others, had a very valid point. When JVD said, posters were being disruptive, she replied:

"I suspect that it is only disrutive to a certain little tin-pot Dictator who call himself a "Moderator".

Try going back to the original concept and being a Forum HOST and see how much better both this Forum and the Product forums might become again — in spite of the dismal performance of the Jive Software."

Buko said, "And I don't suppose you consider your actions disruptive?"

The point is that it's a joke... The Deleter Joker or Joker the Deleter. As far as i'm concerned it matters eff all to us... we're not looking for points, we're not looking for community status. We are. Yup... actually, it's a clan... we all used the same log in to check the forums.. no big deal... we're all polite... then Jay got upset with the draconian behaviour... the excreta hit the fan.

No big deal... they can keep banning and anyone can keep re-registering... in the Jhabrix case though, it's been three separate people... dec9, i feel for you .

Individually, they can ban, we can re register... look for our solutions, help where we can and depart. Though, sadly, that helping bit is becoming rarer across the board – compared to what it used to be. Where have all the experts gone? In DW, even Murray has not posted since mid-June Others from there....???? PS????? Other forums i can't comment on....

Anyway, as we always say, Cry Havoc! And bring on the dogs of alcohol!!

JJ

I heard of binning, instead of banning, in the days of the fair forums.

And as far as I know, the hosts had the power to impose it, and to lift it.

The way people act here is just as disruptive to people trying to use this forum as it is in product forums to people trying to use those forums.

I suspect that it is only disrutive to a certain little tin-pot Dictator who call himself a "Moderator".

Try going back to the original concept and being a Forum HOST and see how much better both this Forum and the Product forums might become again — in spite of the dismal performance of the Jive Software.

How can you get banned?

What is the cause?

Must be the result of folding of space that went too far past the mid point and ending up in the future. What results is a post the day before it happens. Just a theory. I am working on the proof. Need beta testors.

Nobody reads Post #10

Lack of explanation OR warning (at least two within some set period of time) is a problem, yeah.  That's just way too aggressive and most of the time a warning will clue someone in to tone things down (although knowing what specifically crossed the line might be needed).

But, and I am sorry to say, I do think that "speech freedom" does not apply here.  This forum is technically Adobe's private property and we are technically guests, so we do need to abide by their rules... even if they turn out to be draconian.  Of course we're also free to look elsewhere for software, so you would think they have some motivation to be reasonable, too.

Like it or not, you need to understand that the concept of "free speech" has to do with the political process in the USA... not a company forum

This is a moderated forum, and free speech has nothing at all to do with what goes on here

As in any forum... if you don't like what goes on, you may choose to not participate

Continuing to attempt political-style free speech here is not going to get you any good result

Stick to on-topic discussions and you will do much better

As far as I'm concerned, this is my first and last post on a subject like this... I come to these forums to learn about products, so that is what I will stick to doing, and I will go back to ignoring any subject topic that has nothing to do with actual products or, in this forum, ideas about how to make the forum work better