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forums.adobe.com Server Location

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April 11, 2009
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Perhaps the thread where we had idly discussed whether the servers are located in Minnesota or whether Geotool gives misleading results was lost because it was in the temporary preview forum. In any event, the search function can't find it.

Keeping in mind that some contributors opine that IP location is not determinative, I still find it curious that Geotool continues to place the servers of this forum at Medicine Lake in the Minneapolis area on an absolutely consistent basis.

It still did a few minutes ago:

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Correct answer Kath-H

My bottleneck, to a big degree, is that I'm too much of a power user.

That must be it.

Ramón G CastañedaAuthor

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Flagfox has been reporting the forum server location In Portland, OR, consistently now.

john_cornicello__retired_

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How quickly some people forget.

From the very begining of the Preview forums it was nnounced that ALL (that means each and every one) of the messages on the preview forum would be purged (made to go away, poof, gone) when the production forums were released.

And in the old discussion in preview I pointed out that the forum servers were in Colorado, not Minnesota. And that WebCrossing servers were in San Jose, not in San Francisco.

Ramón G CastañedaAuthor

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First sentence of the second paragraph of my original post:

Keeping in mind that some contributors opine that IP location is not determinative…

No, I had not forgotten what you said, John, that's why I added "I still find it interesting…" etc.

Jochem's timely elaboration above futher piques my interest:

The IP addresses used by Jive are allocated
to some business in MN:
https://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-209-46-39-0-1

Yup, I followed that link.

Phillip M Jones

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https://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-209-46-39-0-1

This should work better

J

Jochem van Dieten

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Ramón G Castañeda wrote on 2009-04-11 06:41 :

Keeping in mind that some contributors opine that IP location is not determinative, I still find it curious that Geotool continues to place the servers of this forum at Medicine Lake in the Minneapolis area on an absolutely consistent basis.

The reason many automated tools locate the servers in MN is the IP

addresses used. You don't just get IP addresses out of thin air, you

request them from your regional registry. Most of them keep a public

record of their allocations. The IP addresses used by Jive are allocated

to some business in MN:

https://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-209-46-39-0-1

The location found this way is more often then not the corporate

headquarters. In the case of these forums I am inclined to believe the

servers are actually located near Denver since the last IP address

before the forums is 65.168.255.156 which belongs to

https://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-168-254-0-1

As for the performance the TTL is 200 ms instead of the 150 ms I had to

San Jose. It should have been around 140 ms if all else remained equal

because Denver is closer to me. It looks like all timings are normal

through Amsterdam (6 ms), New York (80 ms) and Chicago (100 ms), but

then there is a 100 ms jump. So from Europe to Chicago takes as long as

from Chicago to Denver.

BTW, Windows users shouldn't use tracert for this, but pathping.

Jochem

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Mark_A__Boyd

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Ramón, you may have missed it in one or more of the other threads, but John has stated that the new forum is hosted on a Jive server (just as WebX was on a WebX server). Also, there was a thread on the preview forum where people were posting their tracerts (I think while trying to determine why it was slower from Australia).

Here are a couple of snippets from tracerts I just ran that show the truth of it:

$ tracert forums.adobe.com

Tracing route to adobe.hosted.jivesoftware.com [209.46.39.53]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
[snip]

$ tracert adobe.com

Tracing route to adobe.com [192.150.18.117]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

[snip]

Ramón G CastañedaAuthor

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Mark A. Boyd wrote:
Ramón, you may have missed it in one or more of the other threads, but John has stated that the new forum is hosted on a Jive server (just as WebX was on a WebX server).

No, Mark, I did not miss that. And I've known that for years and years.

You, however, seemed to have missed the thread I was referencing in my OP.

Of course I'm eferencing the Jive server. What else?

Mark_A__Boyd

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You, however, seemed to have missed the thread I was referencing in my OP.

No, I saw that one, too. So, you're posting the geo-estimated location FOI (For Our Information)?

I wonder if it's still slower for the Aussies on this new server?

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Anonymous

so once we get over hte sidebar, what IS the point of this thread? does it matter where the servers are? should we get out our tinfoil hats or something? i don't want to be left without my foil hat on... i'll put it on just in case... ;)

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Anonymous

dave milbut wrote:
so once we get over hte sidebar, what IS the point of this thread? does it matter where the servers are? should we get out our tinfoil hats or something? i don't want to be left without my foil hat on... i'll put it on just in case... ;)

Well, I'm in Wisconsin... the next state over from Minnesota... and it's slow for me too. I can't say that being closer makes it quicker. Tho it may well go back through California before it comes back to me. Dunno.

My bottleneck, to a big degree, is that I'm too much of a power user. I almost alway have the Windows Task Manager open so I can keep an eye on the use of resources. I tend to max them out on a regular basis.

One question I haven't asked is how hard of a resource hit the new forums take on our systems compared to the old. I know that mine is hit pretty hard, even this one that has 1.5 gig of ram. The 256 mg machine they have for me at work starts smokin' by late morning, and I usually have to shut down Firefox and restart it so it can release some memory. NEVER had those kinds of problems in the WebX forums.