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excited_Genie16B8
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March 17, 2009
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I don't like it.

  • March 17, 2009
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Well, not surprisingly the Adobe team went and mucked up what I feel is the best forum on the Internet. They made it look like every other forum on the Internet, with just too much going on.

The clean, plain simple look of the current forums is superior to any other I've ever seen, and changing that is just not worth whatever new 'forum features' might come along. If you can't add new features with the current look, then just don't do anything.

Specifically, the original author of the post is a "who cares" type of thing. It's not needed in a message view. This is worse than what we now have.

Likewise the "views" and "replies" are not required information, and only serve to mess up the view. This is worse.

The message Subject has too little room to display, so it gets wrapped to a second line. This is worse.

Maybe it's not obvious, or not implemented yet, but I see no flags telling me there are replies that I haven't read yet. This is worse.

When you open a message thread, we have the familiar "forum look" which is very much worse than the very clean look we now enjoy.

Like the Home/End shortcuts, and the handling of subclips, Adobe went and 'fixed' something that wasn't broke, thus effectively breaking it.
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    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 21, 2009
    Folks, check this out:

    Eric @ MCA, "Why not a flex-width forum?" #17, 20 Mar 2009 4:23 pm

    Here are my comments on that post:








    Ramón G Castañeda
    - 11:57pm Mar 20, 09 PST

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    Awesome! Absolutely awesome!

    Thank you very much, Eric @ MCA.

    I installed the Greasemonkey version of the scriptas I already have Greasemonkey running afplonk! and it is an absolute joy.

    If heavyboots is your alter ego, double thanks for this.

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    Anonymous
    March 21, 2009
    What I find astounding is that the Forum Development team seem to be unable to recognise just how UGLY and UNWORKABLE a monster they have created.

    Or are they just more interested in guarding their backs and their paychecks?
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    excited_Genie16B8Author
    Legend
    March 21, 2009
    >Here are views of the same content in both systems

    You've just proved my point. The new version looks awful, more difficult to read, and slower to load.
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    excited_Genie16B8Author
    Legend
    March 21, 2009
    >Not true. The old software was badly broken. John Cornicello, who pretty much designed the look and feel of the current forums, said as much

    Wasn't talking about the software (which seems to work perfectly good on my end, by the way). I was talking about the look. These current forums are the best on the 'Net. Adobe is taking a step backwards with the new look.

    My point was that if they can't change what they want to change, and leave the look as is, then just don't change anything.
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    Dirck
    Participating Frequently
    March 20, 2009
    graffiti, you can select the "X minutes ago" hyperlink to go straight to the last post.
    ~graffiti
    ~graffiti
    Legend
    March 20, 2009
    >The biggest fault (which is NOT a matter of taste) is the inability to return to where you were on the last visit.

    With having to enter each thread at the beginning and wade your way to the last read post being a close second.
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    Bob_Peters
    Inspiring
    March 20, 2009
    I would REALLY like to have a user-defined width for at least the actual message portion of the screen. There is currently too much wasted real estate.

    Hmmm. I'll bet I already said that somewhere :)
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    Anonymous
    March 20, 2009
    The biggest fault (which is NOT a matter of taste) is the inability to return to where you were on the last visit.

    I know it's been said before but it can't be said enough!
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    Anonymous
    March 20, 2009
    Just took a look at the new format. I HATE IT! It takes up too much screen space, difficult to read comments rapidly, why have all the space for the author and avatar pic, and why it is so unnecessary to change an excellent forum format.

    I know people resist change, but I don't feel change is justified if the main reason is to make it "new and improved".
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    Bill12
    Inspiring
    March 20, 2009
    When you adjust the text size so folks like me can read it and move done into the posts (2 and beyond), the old forums display more results than the new forums. Font size is an issue as others have said. That makes the columns too narrow. Also brings us back to the line width issue that is not too short (if you can see it).
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