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March 17, 2009
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I don't like it.

  • March 17, 2009
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Well, not surprisingly the Adobe team went and mucked up what I feel is the best forum on the Internet. They made it look like every other forum on the Internet, with just too much going on.

The clean, plain simple look of the current forums is superior to any other I've ever seen, and changing that is just not worth whatever new 'forum features' might come along. If you can't add new features with the current look, then just don't do anything.

Specifically, the original author of the post is a "who cares" type of thing. It's not needed in a message view. This is worse than what we now have.

Likewise the "views" and "replies" are not required information, and only serve to mess up the view. This is worse.

The message Subject has too little room to display, so it gets wrapped to a second line. This is worse.

Maybe it's not obvious, or not implemented yet, but I see no flags telling me there are replies that I haven't read yet. This is worse.

When you open a message thread, we have the familiar "forum look" which is very much worse than the very clean look we now enjoy.

Like the Home/End shortcuts, and the handling of subclips, Adobe went and 'fixed' something that wasn't broke, thus effectively breaking it.
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    March 19, 2009
    Oh, that you were right; and that we would all wake up and find that it had all just been a passing nightmare not a real live permanent one!
    March 19, 2009
    I think i'm in denial... it's not really going to happen.
    March 19, 2009
    Re; #32

    Jive took 3 seconds to open and displays 5.5 messages on my screen.

    WebX took less than 1 second to load and displays seven messages on my screen when I zoom the type to the same size as that in the Jive site.
    Cindy-
    Known Participant
    March 19, 2009
    But once you get all the headers out of there you can get more posts on your screen.
    Curt Wrigley
    Inspiring
    March 19, 2009
    I wont say they loaded instantly, but they both loaded in less than a second. Equally fast for me.

    Without adjusting the window; with the new forum I see 1.5 posts on the first screen. On the old forum I see not quite all of the first post. While the font is smaller on the new forum, it is easier for me to read a more pleasing layout and I see more content before I have to scroll.
    March 19, 2009
    I see your point Cindy.
    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    March 19, 2009
    John, thank you for posting something directly comparable.

    Jive only shows 10 of the 11 posts in WebX, takes up the same time, and the size of the actual effective post text is only 70%. I am afraid the text size will be a serious issue.

    It is so nice in the present forums to be able to see the number/total number of posts.
    Cindy-
    Known Participant
    March 19, 2009
    > Both Jive and WebX were instant on my machine.

    We are hearing a lot of slowness so part of it may depend on where you are. But for something that is supposed to work for people all over the world the speed simply is not working. It is very slow and for people who have fast machines.
    March 19, 2009
    Both Jive and WebX were instant on my machine.
    Cindy-
    Known Participant
    March 19, 2009
    Well John, Jive took about 15 sec. and Webx was instant. Nothing else matters.