I'm goint to miss this forum so much as it is!

My mistake; I had my PST times wrong by an hour; still more than 20 minutes to go..

Made it. And this one?

I have just been to the trial forums, and only see buttons for adding points, not for removing them. I wonder if I'll manage to post this message...

>Freeagent, John has been giving a tremendous battle to include this vital functionality in the new forums, and I understand he hasn't been losing it. Let's cross our fingers. In any case, this is a "detail" that can be fixed once all the large fires have been extinguished...

>That's a great relief to hear, Claudio

indeed!

>I wonder how heavy the punishment in minus points

are there minus points? or "negative karma" like devices? uh oh. i'm in trouble!!! :) it took me a year to get a positive karma on slashdot! :)

>One thing is certain: from now on, the forums will be more fragmented, and therefore we shall be less of a community.

>Why do you think that?

>Large gaps between items (both listings & messages) mean that you can no longer get around quickly; only half the number of items are now visible per screenful and any thread that gets pushed to the second page will get no further responses.

And with people and posts in separate boxes with different rankings, the sense of a unified community of equals will suffer.

I wonder how heavy the punishment in minus points will be for serious posters venturing to suggest reading the fine manual or, maybe even worse, venturing to state that these applications imply a steep learning curve so that a competent use actually requires a greater effort than do surfing, chatting, facebooking, and other socializing activities which may seem far more important.

Freeagent, John has been giving a tremendous battle to include this vital functionality in the new forums, and I understand he hasn't been losing it. Let's cross our fingers. In any case, this is a "detail" that can be fixed once all the large fires have been extinguished...

I so hope you're wrong ann! i wouldn't bet on it, but i hope so.

like i've maintained all along, i would hope that if the forums are FAST, if they throw enough horsepower at them, they MIGHT be usable.

Why do I think that?

Because the new format is too slow and uneconomical to encourage anyone to want to linger very long; or to return very frequently.

Large gaps between items (both listings & messages) mean that you can no longer get around quickly; only half the number of items are now visible per screenful and any thread that gets pushed to the second page will get no further responses.

No thought has been given to the requirements that have been stated so very clearly by the most regular Users; and the development team have taken the lazy and easy way out by adopting the standard Jive format.

The considerable concern that has been shown about e-mail access in the last few days means that people are intending to use that method
to access the Forums which obviously indicates that they find the new format to be unusable by Browser.

That alone will kill the Forums as happened with the Macromedia Forums which were so ghastly that everyone resorted to News Readers.

The Adobe Forums have been a wonderful resource until today;
but is now being willfully destroyed.

> One thing is certain: from now on, the forums will be more fragmented, and therefore we shall be less of a community.

Why do you think that?

Not to mention the crawling slowness of the trial forums... :-(