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areohbee
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February 28, 2012
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Locking threads due to insults.

  • February 28, 2012
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Locking a thread due to insults supports the negative behavior on the part of the abusers.

Now they know all they have to do to close a thread that's bugging 'em is hurl insults.

Likewise, you are punishing those who have reported the insults - don't report insults on threads or they might be closed.

I suggest banning the abusers from the forum instead.

The flamers know how to find their targets regardless of which thread has the most recent rash of insults.

The problem has nothing to do with the thread and everything to do with disrespectful people.

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Inspiring
March 1, 2012

I learned some very elementary lessons from my grandfather at a very early age ... namely that courtesy should be common ... respect is earned ... you reap what you sow ...

"Flamers" come in all types.

For example: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/969410?tstart=0

Speaking purely hypothetically …

When someone has a lengthy history of relentless posts containing conjecture, pontification and self-proclaimed expertise, they are likely to draw unwanted attention when their offerings fail to produce the evidence to back up the claims made. There are bound to be those who will disagree. Posting here is not a one-way street ... Participants should be prepared to back up their findings to support their comments. Otherwise, their contributions are pointless editorializing and become a waste of valuable server space or fodder for escalation of argument. Claiming victim status on each occasion when someone disagrees with a particular point of view can be tedious and tiresome.

I have always thought this U2U forum was for "discussion" ... and that daily "blogs" were a private enterprise ... in the latter venue, the originator indeed holds the reins and can control the content ... conversely, this is a community. Those who contribute here have to either exhibit the tolerance for others to participate by expressing opposing points, no matter how prideful they may be ... or strike out on their own elsewhere and see if they can attract the audience they actually desire if they only wish to acquire completely like-minded praise for their point of view. This is after all a forum and not a vehicle for the sole purpose to create a fan club to support one's ego.

If participants here, want to be treated with courtesy, they should be courteous. If they want to be respected, they should treat others with respect. It's disingenuous to have a history of antagonistic behavior ... then complain to the mods when they feel they have been treated unfairly ... It's a bit disconcerting to witness someone kindle a fire and then direct blame to others for the resulting inferno …

john beardsworth
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 1, 2012

Well said, Butch. The thread you cited has just been locked, but who was it who was handing out the insults there? Rather than claiming to be insulted when people don't take us as seriously as we want, it can be good to remember Kipling's "If" http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm - it can be very comforting.

Claudio González
Legend
March 1, 2012

I don't seem to notice any conflict between my suggestions and the comments of Butch_M and johhnbeardy.

Jacob Bugge
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 29, 2012

I third what Claudio said.

February 28, 2012

Banning is a pretty serious move.  We have all seen excellent people banned for a misstatement. 

And they can come back as another name.

Would rather see the insults redacted, or a 3 strilkes your out policy.

Phillip M  Jones
Inspiring
February 28, 2012

If your going to do banning, should be email address, person's name not by screen name.

The method Mozilla uses on its newsgroup (yes they use NNTP newsgroups which Ilike better than this Jive Stuff), they are given 3 passes with an email Warning from moderator each time. After 4 you are teminate for up to year.

In case of the adobe forms should be similar except no allowed back in after the three strikes.

The policy should be written up and posted as a footnote at bottom of window for subject or between the windo that you read the subject and the icon. See This

http://www.screencast.com/t/pws2y20s9Qj or http://www.screencast.com/t/u3O79LA3

Note should be:

  1. No unsolicted advertisment (Spam) exception when referencing something, like Utility or a Plugin that will actually help in Creation or editing of a PDF.
  2. Absolutely No Personal insults directed atother users, or Adobe employees that try to help in Forums Or thry to maintain the adobe Forums at Adobe's end.

Results Of Breaking Policy:

  1. For Out right Spam your name, address, and email will be place on a permanent ban list that will be maintaine for duration of Forums' existence.
  2. For insulting user or employee your name, address, and email will be placed on list for duration of Forums existence.  You will be given written email warnings by Moderator to cease and desist. On 4 occuranece you will be banned in Perpetuity. No chance of forgiveness will ever be given at any time in the future.