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February 22, 2009
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My top ten criteria for the new forums

  • February 22, 2009
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This is my view on what the new forums should provide. This is what I'll personally be measuring the new forums against when we have a fully testable beta version.

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1 - The new forums should encourage the participation of new members, both to feel encouraged to seek help in the first place, but also to stay and become long-term contributing members of the online community here.

2 - The new forums should alienate the existing users as little as possible, as there's no point in having questions with no answers - though equally there's no point in having answers with no questions. A tricky balance to strike.

3 - Response of the forums should be no worse, and hopefully better, than typical performance here in recent months. If that means beefing up the hardware to accommodate the demands of more graphic-intensive software, so be it.

4 - The forums should look not unlike the majority of typical modern internet forums. This will not be favoured by those familiar with the sparse appearance of the present forums, but incoming new members expect to see something that looks more contemporary and familiar in style, even if there's a modest performance cost.

5 - They should function not unlike the majority of modern internet forums, in terms of the user interface and usable features. If you've got your first problem with Adobe software and you arrive in the Adobe forums for the first time, you don't want then to be confronted with something that looks like another problem and which takes time and effort to understand. The learning curve should be absolutely minimal. There should be a very low turn-away rate (potential users taking one look and backing off before participating or even complaining).

6 - The search function should be state of the art. If you have a good manual for the product software, a good user interface for it, and a good search engine for the knowledgebase and forums, the number of questions needing to be asked should be significantly lower.

7 - To support the regular participants it should be possible to list the discussions which have unread posts in any given member's selected forums, and within those discussions it should be possible to go directly to the unread content without scrolling around to find it. It should then be possible to go to the next unread post in the next unread discussion without first going backwards to the overall list.

8 - NNTP access, though a mystery to me, seems highly valued by some, and providing it does not seem to mess with what the rest of us see (setting aside the quoting problem), so let's have it.

9 - An effective mechanism to enforce the forum rules by restricting access by individuals who persistently break the rules should be provided - and there should be no simple way round it. Failing that, provision of an inbuilt method for users to ignore posts by other specified users is necessary.

10 - There should be a properly functioning list of banned words.

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That's my top ten list of criteria - though in five minutes I'll probably think of some key stuff I have left out.

What's yours?
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    125 replies

    March 5, 2009
    >A veritable nightmare for forum hosts, reduced to nannies and hall monitors.

    who cares? i'm not a host, are you? if the hosts think it's too much, i'm sure they'll complain.
    March 5, 2009
    >As I said, check the Apple forums<br /><br />no thanks. dude, get a dell. XD <jk><br /><br />>Others marked solved are really not solved at all. <br /><br />I think "solved" is a bad idea, for reason's i've given elsewhere. i even posted an example thread yesterday (or so) from ps win where the op though it was "solved" and the thread continued to list 3 or 4 other ways to accomplish something, one of which turned out to be better than the one that would've been marked "solved" (non-destructive).
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 5, 2009
    Awful idea, no matter how you look at it.

    A veritable nightmare for forum hosts, reduced to nannies and hall monitors.

    As I said, check the Apple forums. Threads that clearly contain an answer are not marked as such. Others marked solved are really not solved at all.
    March 5, 2009
    and no rating yourself "up"... :)
    March 5, 2009
    I agree. the forum hosts should have the final say. and adobe employees should also be able to adjust ratings. (i don't know if they give you guys mod powers or not.) you all would have a pretty good idea of what's a "good" answer. :)
    March 5, 2009
    I agree. the forum hosts should have the final say and the ability to make adjustments... and adobe employees should also be able to adjust ratings. (i don't know if they give you guys mod powers or not.) you all would have a pretty good idea of what's a "good" answer. :)
    Chris Cox
    Legend
    March 5, 2009
    I really would like some way for moderators to adjust ratings.
    I foresee problems with folks gaming the ratings, or getting a good rating for plausible sounding but incorrect answers (worst when the OP doesn't understand the problem or answer).
    March 5, 2009
    I think that's what Harbs has been driving at (please correct me if i'm wrong, and sorry if i've misinterpreted you!)...
    March 5, 2009
    >our "reputations" will be affected by the manner that some moronic and spiteful forum visitor who didn't get the answer he wanted, cares to "rate" us?

    might not be so awful if you can't rate people down. that is, like mom used to say (bless her), if you can't say something nice, don't say anything.

    so ranking could go up with a positive attribution (from anyone) but i think a negative ranking button has too much potential for abuse, as a tool for revenge or just petty spitefulness.
    March 5, 2009
    more forum examples:

    http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/features?view=discussions&start=0

    personally, it's different, but i don't think i would find it unusable IF THE SPEED IS THERE.