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DonRicklin-BKE8wc
DonRicklin-BKE8wc
Inspiring
April 5, 2009
Question

New Forum Look

  • April 5, 2009
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As a long time (3 years, anyhow) user of the Lightroom UtoU forum, I am liking the new look. Much better tahn the last try at a 'new look'! Only thibg missing that I have seen so far is a way to provide a 'Signature' to be appplied to each post I make.

Don

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    Ex-photo printer
    Ex-photo printer
    Inspiring
    April 10, 2009

    Only thing I would suggest is putting a "return to forum list" link at the bottom of the page, so you do not need to scroll to the top to go back to list.

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    Anonymous
    April 10, 2009

    photo printer wrote:

    Only thing I would suggest is putting a "return to forum list" link at the bottom of the page, so you do not need to scroll to the top to go back to list.

    If you can put a "return to forum list" link at the bottom of the page you can add bread crumbs which would be more helpful.

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    Bob_Peters
    Inspiring
    April 8, 2009

    I get REALLY sick and tired of scrolling through countless lines of wasted space and many pages just to browse a thread!  The amount of fluff in this new format is appalling.  Period.

    I have the sinking feeling that we are stuck with this mess.

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    Anonymous
    April 8, 2009

    Bob_Peters wrote:


    I have the sinking feeling that we are stuck with this mess.

    you never know. that's what we dreaded last time, and as it became clear that the people who answered the most posts couldn't or wouldn't because of the mess, the webx system was rolled back into place. i guess time will tell. and this forum IS better than the last upgrade try, but not by very much. i know my production is way way down. i've answered maybe 5 or 6 threads in the ps win forum since monday. i would normally be on 20 or 30 by wednesday... it's really REALLY difficult slogging through the slop and the mess and an EFFORT to actually read and reply to posts. if that doesn't change, there's going to be a real problem.

    a trend? hmm...

    Kenneth C. Benson
    Kenneth C. Benson
    Inspiring
    April 8, 2009

    I'm one of those NNTP people. I've been reading posts now using Thunderbird, but because of the unique identifier number on the end of every post, nothing threads. Even worse, because of the unique identifier, the "Re" gets considered when sorting alphabetically. So I end up with a long line of posts at the top, every one of them a new post, and a much longer line of replies below that. At least the replies are grouped, although the identifiers aren't assigned in ascending alphanumeric order, so they groups themselves are not ordered.

    The result is that I end up reading replies before original posts, or I end up reading all the original posts before I get to the replies. Even so, the web interface is much slower, all that clicking.

    Moving the unique identifier into the body of the post would make the email version much more palatable. Does anyone know where the official complaint/suggestion box is?

    Kenneth C. Benson

    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    April 8, 2009

    Kenneth C. Benson wrote:

    Does anyone know where the official complaint/suggestion box is?

    There isn't one—other than threads like this in this section of the forums.

    Draw your own conclusion.  Here's mine:  our opinion is irrelevant.  

    Kenneth C. Benson
    Kenneth C. Benson
    Inspiring
    April 8, 2009

    Well, if this is it, then here are my other complaints.

    1) Posting by email doesn't like certain characters. I posted something today with some underscores in it (____). It got cut off before the underscores. Underscore seems pretty benign. I wonder what else it doesn't like.

    2) Posting by email doesn't show me my own posts. (So I didn't know about the underscore thing until I happened to look on the web version.)

    3) Posting by email doesn't always post. I posted something earlier this afternoon that never showed up. So I reposted it on the web version.

    These three, along with the unique identifier in each email, make the email version pretty difficult to use.

    Does anyone know where the post count comes from? I've been posting here for years. I don't know my total number of posts, but it's a whole lot more than 16.

    Kenneth Benson

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    Al Ferrari
    Known Participant
    April 6, 2009

    How about a threaded tree view? That would help find where we left off the last time we visited, plus it shows to which post the replies are addressed.

    I also agree with most of comments about too much wasted space.

    Al

    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    April 6, 2009

    Al Ferrari wrote:

    How about a threaded tree view?

    Oy!  Al,  that's already available in your forum Preferences.  But I doubt you've actually seen it live, or you wouldn't be asking for it.   

    Cindy-
    Cindy-
    Known Participant
    April 6, 2009

    I cannot stand the fact I cannot tell where I left off in a thread!!! That part is awful! And I am not into email. I get enough of that. I like to be able to go to a forum and catch up where I left off.

    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    April 6, 2009

    Cindy- wrote:

    I cannot stand the fact I cannot tell where I left off in a thread!!! That part is awful! And I am not into email. I get enough of that. I like to be able to go to a forum and catch up where I left off.

    Ditto.  And the slowness in posting is nothing short of pathetic.

    Combine these two factors with the lack of breadcrumbs at the bottom and the forum is just as bad as when the old forums timed out: unusable.

    ~graffiti
    ~graffiti
    Legend
    April 5, 2009

    It's pretty obvious that these fora are built for short threads.

    I mean, who the heck is going to remember what page they were on when they visited a long thread the last time or what post they were at.

    Not me.

    DonRicklin-BKE8wc
    DonRicklin-BKE8wcAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    ~graffiti wrote:

    It's pretty obvious that these fora are built for short threads.

    I mean, who the heck is going to remember what page they were on when they visited a long thread the last time or what post they were at.

    Not me.

    Again, I think that depends, again on which forums you were on previously, Forums.Adobe, or Lab.Forums (former Macromedia ones). The Lightroom Forums had some  very long theads! So not much of a change, here.

    Don

    ~graffiti
    ~graffiti
    Legend
    April 5, 2009

    DonRicklin wrote:

    Again, I think that depends, again on which forums you were on previously, Forums.Adobe, or Lab.Forums (former Macromedia ones). The Lightroom Forums had some  very long theads! So not much of a change, here.

    Don

    Precisely why I avoided those forums over the years. I basically just went elsewhere to get my information.

    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    The new forum look is gosh-darned awful. 

    It took several scripts and Adblock Plus to tame it a bit: force full-width forum page to waste less space, nuke all avatars, kill the utterly useless "More Like This" box, obliterate the "Top Participants" box, delete the "Staus" icon under each poster's name, hide "labels" and "badges", etc.  Now I see none of that cr@p!  

    Now some misguided, lost soul wants "signatures" ??? !!!  No way!  we went over this many times already: do not allow signatures, please! Ban anyone who uses them. 

    DonRicklin-BKE8wc
    DonRicklin-BKE8wcAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    For some situations a Signature that lists important background info can be helpful ( in some subforums) to those answering questions, especially where systems and or equipment (Camera, for Lightroom forums). That doesn't mean all posts need such signatures or that all sub forums do.

    .A  handy alterative for those asking for Signatures, for the reasons alluded to above) is to have a multi-clipboard function and have a saved equipment list that one can paste in a post as needed. The Labs had Signatures, but the older UtoU forums like PSCS and LR ones did not.


    I can understand the call for no Signatures and some of the other clean-up requests (no Avatars and the like), but others are quite use to these coming from V-bulletin forums.

    My 2¢,

    Don

    Tom_Murray_1
    Tom_Murray_1
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    Please, no signatures.

    Now using Affinity Photo
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    Anonymous
    April 5, 2009

    this is bad. this is very very bad.

    DonRicklin-BKE8wc
    DonRicklin-BKE8wcAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    dave milbut wrote:

    this is bad. this is very very bad.

    Explain thy self! What's is bad about the new forums? Merely complaining helps no one!

    Don

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    Anonymous
    April 5, 2009

    i'm not mearly complaining. they look like shiete.

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    Bob_Peters
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    Alas, there is still too much wasted space and the 'posting+fluff' area is fixed width.  All that stuff in the right column should be moved to a popup or button without devouring the whole column.

    DonRicklin-BKE8wc
    DonRicklin-BKE8wcAuthor
    Inspiring
    April 5, 2009

    And I like taht one actually gets the content of a post in the email notification and not just a link and 'read more...'

    Don

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    Anonymous
    April 5, 2009

    DonRicklin wrote:

    And I like taht one actually gets the content of a post in the email notification and not just a link and 'read more...'

    Don

    That is for folks that want to participate only by email, Don. They never need to come to the forums in a browser.

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