No NNTP??? :(

That would be excellent. Baffles me how it would work technically, but as long as it does, I'm happy.

I'm talking specifically about the forums. It knows what it sent out, and strips that out.

JC,

Absolute myth about the email autoquoting. As Kath says, it's totally a function of the application and the configuration. With Thunderbird and Eudora, simply hitting the reply quotes everything, or what is highlighted, as the default settings.

Same goes for newsreaders. If the user has been too lazy to change the defaults, then autoquotes abound. I've been using newsreaders for years and never get a stray autoquote going out.

>Email responses do not include any quoted material unless the person typing the email adds that in manually.

Not so in Mail, at least the way I have it set up. It's a preference. And if I highlight part of a message I receive, and reply, just that part appears as a quote.

Were you making a general statement John, or is this something specific about the way the email system will work in the new forums (when it works)?

>Email responses do not include any quoted material unless the person typing the email adds that in manually.

Wouldn't that depend on what email program they use? I'm assuming they can send back what was sent to them, at the very least. Are you saying that the forum software strips out quoted material from the post it sends and/or can recognize older posted material in what it receives?

> Publishing to NNTP essential makes the information free to the world.

and heaven forbid any information be free...

Email responses do not include any quoted material unless the person typing the email adds that in manually.

Once it's set up and running, you're supposed to be able to fully participate via email. So far it doesn't look as tho email has been turned on yet tho.

That, of course, will not help with quoting... browser based people will have to contend with email users that don't understand the need to snip material.

Which also opens the question of whether email is as easy (or legal?) to redistribute. I'm sure Adobe can put in the TOS that emails from the forum are intended for the recipient only. Then they would have a bit of recourse when/if people use them inappropriately. All relatively speculation, of course... but it would make business sense.

> Removing NNTP access to forums will do little to enforce a reduction in full quotation replies.

Well, I don't think you can use Outlook Express to answer a web-based forum, so unless the Jive software defaults to quoting all messages, then I suspect that it will result in fewer quoted messages.

(Not that I am opposed in any way to NNTP being continued. But I think Dorothy hit the nail on the head when she suggested that Adobe may want to keep more proprietary control over the forum contents. Publishing to NNTP essential makes the information free to the world.)

> arguably the users with the answers

Oh no! Not in the Photoshop area anyway.