No NNTP??? :(

Oh, if I could just get that system for our prerelease forums....

I don't anticipate a quoting issue with email. From what I've seen, the system does a great job of picking out the actual comment from the message. A user would have to consciously copy/paste the quoted info to get it to show up. You should not be able to distinguish between a web post or a mail post.

The former Macromedia product forums are predominantly NNTP users -- mostly because the web front end to those forums has historically been too slow, ugly, and buggy to be useful.

Will they prefer the web front end if given one that is responsive, readable, and stable? Only time will tell.

If we are supporting email posting, we will need some sort of "excessive quoting" filter.

Looking through a thread on the Dreamweaver forum - I went there because I knew it was one of those on 'the other side', testing my login - I see reams of autoquotes that make the posts unreadable without huge effort. I suspect there will be a lot of people very, very unhappy to lose their NNTP access.

> The newsgroup _is_ efficient, the web forum is not.

Change is hard. I had that same attitude toward windows. It was so much slower and less effecient than DOS. Sometimes a lower common denominator is better overall, than efficiency for a few. I

From the Dreamweaver forum:

>For most of us regular posters the newsgroup access is simply the preferred way. Using the web forum would be much more inconvenient and far slower, which might result in much less answers given to the people who need them. Why should we do that? Especially for people who are reading almost every thread and trying to answer most of them, one thing is most important: efficiency. The newsgroup _is_ efficient, the web forum is not.

The email system appears to not do quotes. There is a bunch of info in the emails (body text, link to the message, poster name, link to the poster's profile, etc.). But when replying, only the newly typed text goes through.

Lack of NNTP may help the dreaded 3 page quoted posts that are so annoying, but I suspect the email sourced posts will do the same thing.

As annoying as the formating (or lack of formatting) of the non web sourced posts are, many of the more helpful people use NNTP to post. Its Very effecient for someone who checks more than 1 forum. So, I can see and respect the NNTP users frustration with the dropping of NNTP support.

But; alas I do think it is the way of things. At least in the image/video world, posting in line images or video sometimes could save pages of posts. Its true a picture is worth 1000 words. Its difficult to support the multimedia apps with text only.

Curt

What Jim Simon says!

I like the lack of NNTP. Users posting through such always quote the entire message (annoying) and have a hard carriage return at 78 characters or something, instead of the preferred HTML "wide as the post" return.