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March 21, 2009
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Protecting our Copyright from being Misappropriated.

  • March 21, 2009
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Before anyone posts ANY image in the New Forums, it is essential that they re-read Adobe's TOS and particularly the wording (and implications) of Clause 8.

Adobe has given themselves the power to purloin any "Content" posted or displayed on their web sites (meaning our original art and photographs) for ANY purpose, anywhere, and in perpetuity

Adobe's Legal Department need to address this matter with some urgency because the risk of loss of Artists' Rights is already damaging participation in some Forums severely:

The Photography Forum is one example as shown in these threads:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b85627/

Wade Zimmerman, "So is the photography forum dead or grasping for its last breath?" #, 19 Mar 2009 12:27 pm
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    Known Participant
    March 26, 2009
    I see. Thank you for the clarification.

    Paz
    March 26, 2009
    We do not post images directly into the current Forums we are only posting html Links to third-party or private servers; and woe betide Adobe if they try to raid those to harvest "Content" for their own use!

    But now we have a different scenario because people will have the ability to post images directly into the New Forums so their actual images will be stored on Adobe's own Servers which is when the true evil of Clause 8 of the present TOS takes hold.
    Known Participant
    March 26, 2009
    >Before anyone posts ANY image in the New Forums

    Hasn't this been in Adobe's TOS for quite some time? Are you saying Adobe's 'Right to Purloin in Perpetuity' as per a user agreeing to Adobe's agreement is only in the NEW forums?

    Paz
    March 26, 2009
    >Why these people simply just don't get an expert opinion from a qualified legal begal >

    They don't need to because Adobe's current TOS, while perfectly easy to comprehend by any normally intelligent person (without benefit of "legal opinion"!), is unconscionable.

    If you were a professional Artist, Author or Photographer, and your livelihood depended on income derived from your Copyrighted work, you would understand why the prompt resolution of this matter is of the utmost importance especially because people will shortly be able to post images directly onto Adobe's Servers (via these Forums) and, by doing so, will unwittingly give away ALL "Rights of Usage" of their creative work for all time without monetary compensation.

    Now do you understand?
    Known Participant
    March 26, 2009
    wow.

    Just when I thought I'd seen it all, an even deeper and darker realm in nadirland opens its gaping maw.

    just. plain. wow.
    March 26, 2009
    PJones:

    I suggest that you go to this Link:

    http://www.copyright.gov/title17/

    Download the Copyright Act and READ it (right through!) before posting anything else on this subject.

    8/
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    March 26, 2009
    Not I'm not stealing the images because I am only viewing them.
    March 26, 2009
    (omg! did he really post that?!!)

    !!!!
    March 26, 2009
    >The Internet is not covered under copyright.

    that is so far from correct, it's a different animal.

    >Anything you say or do on the internet, once published on the internet, is in the public Domain period.

    wrong! wrong! wrong! omg!

    >The only way images can be prevented from being copyied is to set website so that they can't be copied once uploaded even by adobe corporate.

    IMPOSSIBLE! how many wrong statements can you make in one post?!!

    >I could go to any site Not setup correctly and drop an image on to my desktop. I don't do it, because I believe that is stealing. I have some ethics.

    here's a scary thing. did you know that as soon as you visit a website containing any images, THEY'RE ALREADY ON YOUR COMPUTER?!! OMG! YOU THIEF! read up on browser cache and stop posting when you have nothing to say but rubbish!
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    March 26, 2009
    Bob type you your name in to Google, or Yahoo see what comes up. You'll be surprised. Once published on the internet its in public domain.