Protecting our Copyright from being Misappropriated.

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March 21, 2009
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Before anyone posts ANY image in the New Forums, it is essential that they re-read Adobe's TOS and particularly the wording (and implications) of Clause 8.

Adobe has given themselves the power to purloin any "Content" posted or displayed on their web sites (meaning our original art and photographs) for ANY purpose, anywhere, and in perpetuity

Adobe's Legal Department need to address this matter with some urgency because the risk of loss of Artists' Rights is already damaging participation in some Forums severely:

The Photography Forum is one example as shown in these threads:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b85627/

Wade Zimmerman, "So is the photography forum dead or grasping for its last breath?" #, 19 Mar 2009 12:27 pm

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Ramón G Castañeda

Inspiring

Dov,
>A similar brouhaha erupted last year over similar TOS on the photoshop.com website. Ultimately, Adobe Legal added wording to clear up what the whole issue

That's what I keep saying. Glad to hear it confirmed by THE Bear. ;)

Thanks. :)

A

Anonymous

John:

Excellent.

I think that it is extremely important for both sides to be absolutely clear as to what rights are being granted and also what rights are protected.

John_Cornicello_Photo

Inspiring

Working on it. Legal departments are not always the fastest operations (for many good reasons) to get a response from.

A

Anonymous

>nobody reads post #3.

But that would just be that particular lawyer's "opinion" of what Adobe's TOS might mean.

As far as I am concerned, I believe that we need to have a clear Statement in the TOS from Adobe that sets Limits so that User's Content can ONLY be stored on Adobe's Servers and disseminated in connection with the Forum or web site on which it was posted.

It should also state that Adobe will NOT convert such material for other purposes or reproduction without written permission of the Copyright holder.

Dov Isaacs

Legend

A similar brouhaha erupted last year over similar TOS on the photoshop.com website. Ultimately, Adobe Legal added wording to clear up what the whole issue was about and I suspect John Cornicello will arrange for similar clarification here.

In a nutshell, the key words in this "license" are for the purpose of enabling your use of the Service. Adobe claims no ownership of end users' content or any rights beyond those necessary to show the web page with the messages and content that you have posted. If you don't provide those rights to Adobe, it cannot legally display the page at all! It is unfortunate that these "great legal minds" cannot, at least on the first pass, provide wording that doesn't evoke all sorts of conspiracy theories such as those opined in this thread.

- Dov

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)