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August 6, 2009
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Top participants

  • August 6, 2009
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What's it based on?  As of this morning, I am above someone who has 100 more points than I do.

Is it just based on post count or is there some secret Adobe judge, reading everyone's posts?

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    Claudio González
    Legend
    September 24, 2009

    I don't know what are the basis for ranking the posters who make it to the list. In any case, I have just taken a look at it and notice the following:


    1. It is called Top participants, but also includes some who haven't been promoted from users to participants.


    2. It includes Ramón, who resigned and was then banned.


    3. I made it to the list for the first time since the new forums were implemented!

    September 24, 2009

    Claudio González wrote:


    1. It is called Top participants, but also includes some who haven't been promoted from users to participants.

    Hah! That's just Jive's stupid UI designers smoking weed again. "Participant" is a posting "rank", whatever the heck that means.  It also just happens to be the word they used for that feature when they should have just named it "Top Users".  (Of course, "User" is a "rank" too...)

    In other words "Top Participants" is inclusive of all people (lack of better term) here, not just people with the "Participant" rank (that the Jiveware designers came up with one day while smoking crack).

    I think.

    the_wine_snob
    Inspiring
    September 5, 2009
    Is it just based on post count or is there some secret Adobe judge, reading everyone's posts?

    There is actually a super-computer in Langley, VA, USA, that crunches the numbers on each poster. Their rating is based on many factors: posts, points and how many Adobe products they have registered. Oh, and then there are the PM's to Adobe managment on how helpful these people have really been.

    A few have been cited for bartering these elements, but that is frowned upon.

    In all seriousness, it's based on a couple of aspects:

    1.) posts to a particular forum

    2.) posts to all fora

    3.) points

    As an example, I have more posts and more points than a respected contributor to a particular forum. However, he is rated above me for that forum. My posts are spread out over many fora, and his are mostly into that one forum. In that forum, I would not have it any other way, and would not expect it to be otherwise.

    It is an amalgam of several factors. It is probably weighted, but I do not know what the factors are. Maybe one of the MOD's can address that.

    Hunt

    August 7, 2009

    all i know is that i was top participant in this forum, now i'm a nobody. my ego is bruised.

    August 7, 2009

    dave milbut wrote:

    all i know is that i was top participant in this forum, now i'm a nobody. my ego is bruised.

    Guess that means you comments are "pointless". 

    August 7, 2009

    The only good thing about keeping Top Participants is that it generates communication amoungst posters pointing out the inconsistancy of application on different forum pages.

    Another positive is that it helps fill in the wasted space on the right side.

    Captiv8r
    Legend
    August 7, 2009

    Hi there

    Personally I tend to ignore that the top participants list is even there. I'm more interested in the "meat" of the thread.

    I can't help but wonder if in some cases it causes what I'm going to dub as "The knighthood effect". Occasionally helpful Harry suddenly is knighted and becomes Sir Post A Lot in nothing but a pure effort to watch himself climb the ranks of the list.

    I'm not saying I've seen this anywhere. Just that I view it as a potential hazard.

    Good Karma and happy Friday to all! Rick

    August 7, 2009

    The hazard is real because the base upon what the top participants is built upon is not solid. There are no rules holding it nor guiding it. People have to guess thus causing confusion. Post 16 and 19 are  fine examples of the confusion.

    Kami_Bambiraptor
    Participating Frequently
    August 7, 2009

    But, incidentally, I still do not see the "Top Participants" on this page, even though I am now at home and using Firefox instead of IE.


    And I still DO see the top participants in the Lounge!

    Inspiring
    August 7, 2009

    The configuration of which widgets to show is specific to each forum. Apparently Top participants was removed here.

    August 7, 2009

    jochemd wrote:

    Apparently Top participants was removed here.

    No it wasn't!


    Just enter this forum via the discussions "breadcrumb" and you see it.


    Enter via the Forum comments "breadcrumb" or the forum URL, and it's gone.


    You just have to know how these things work. 

    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 6, 2009

    I believe the Top participants are simply those with greatest recent posting activity in the forum in question, probably calculated in a rather simple way.

    I post more or less regularly in the following forums:

    Illustrator, http://forums.adobe.com/community/illustrator/illustrator_general?view=discussions&start=0

    Typography, http://forums.adobe.com/community/design_development/typography?view=discussions&start=0

    Print Design, http://forums.adobe.com/community/design_development/printdesign

    GoLive, http://forums.adobe.com/community/golive/golive_general_discussion

    Web design, http://forums.adobe.com/community/design_development/webdesign

    I have seen the list rankings change rapidly, especially in the forums with fewer posts, and there seems to be no connexion between list ranking and points; and the lists correspond well to my impression of recent posting activity.

    Fr__Watson
    Participating Frequently
    August 6, 2009
    I believe the Top participants are simply those with greatest recent posting activity in the forum in question, probably calculated in a rather simple way.

    I've occasionally seen a "No top participants" (not enough data to calculate) message, or something to that effect, in the Lounge Basement, so I am inclined to agree.

    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    August 6, 2009

    Cat herder is a much better description then lion tamer, 'lion' gives the felines in case way too much credit.

    If you want to try subtle digs, please make sure you are actually subtle. And just to be safe, don't try it in somebody elses thread forcing me to take action there and polute it.

    And if you're going to respond to 'subtle digs' - how about not deleting the post, so we can see what you're talking about?

    Fr__Watson
    Participating Frequently
    August 6, 2009
    What's it based on?  As of this morning, I am above someone who has 100 more points than I do.

    For me, as of this morning, there are no top participants showing any more in the FCA forum. I think it is based on # of posts & they are automatically counted by the software. I ***used*** to be one of the top participants in the Lounge, but no longer, since I don't post nearly as often.

    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    August 6, 2009

    Still there, Frambi.

    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    August 6, 2009

    And what is wrong with wishing back Neil, Ozpeter and Bob? Oz was the best host the lounge ever had by a mile.

    Inspiring
    August 6, 2009

    Cat herder is a much better description then lion tamer, 'lion' gives the felines in case way too much credit.

    If you want to try subtle digs, please make sure you are actually subtle. And just to be safe, don't try it in somebody elses thread forcing me to take action there and polute it.

    JessehamAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 6, 2009

    Are you really deleting posts speaking to the loss of former "top participants" in a post entitled "top participants" because they refer to heavy-handed mods? 

    Fr__Watson
    Participating Frequently
    August 6, 2009
    Are you really deleting posts speaking to the loss of former "top participants" in a post entitled "top participants" because they refer to heavy-handed mods? 

    You know there's nothing a heavy-handed mod hates more than being called heavy-handed!

    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    August 6, 2009

    Who knows? I'm allegedly top dog in the testing forum, of all places. Murray's second top in DW and he hasn't been seen for weeks. Pointless nonsense.

    August 6, 2009

    From my observations it is based on the points you get in the specific forum you are looking at.  You are ranked with others users' points they have earned in that forum.