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Claudio González
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March 17, 2009
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Urgent question: forum or newsgroup?

  • March 17, 2009
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I am trying to convince Spanish speaking users "from the other side" (ex MM forums in Spanish) to post here their opinions about the changes that are almost here, but have not been succesful. All of them do not use browsers as such to access the forums, and they seem convinced that they are participating, not in a forum, but in a newgroup, housed but not controlled by Adobe. In fact, in the topic lists they are identified as "newsgroup users" while browser users are identified by their screen names.

One of the oldest and most respected participants there has just posted a message in which he states that NNTP users do not access those forums through the Adobe site, so they don't need an Adobe ID, just an email address which doesn't even have to be a real or existing one.

I find this strange, as it would discriminate against those of us using normal browser access. I cannot post in there if I'm not a registered Adobe user, and that means that at some stage I have to provide a valid email address, an identificator (the Adobe ID), and a screen name. But he insists that they don't have to register and have never done.

Could someone please clarify this matter for me?
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    Known Participant
    March 18, 2009
    Those users might want to show some concern. Adobe may well pull the plug on those newsgroups. There are other NNTP options, in the comp and alt domains, but the adobe domain may well disappear when the change happens. At any rate it will not be linked to the web forums, and newbie questions are going to drop dramatically.
    Claudio González
    Legend
    March 17, 2009
    Well, thanks to all of you who have clearly answered my question. I must say that this comes as a complete surprise for me; I thought registration was compulsory regardless.
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 17, 2009
    >I want to know if they have to be registered Adobe users to post using NNTP.

    No.
    Claudio González
    Legend
    March 17, 2009
    Yes, I was following tht thread also, and was aware of what you say.

    It does matter for me because it's one of the excuses that people over there use for not showing any interest in the changes in the forums: they say that they don't want to be individualized by Adobe. I find this a childish excuse, and I want to know if they have to be registered Adobe users to post using NNTP. If they are wrong and they had to register the first time even if it was many years ago, then their excuse is not only childish, but also stupid.
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 17, 2009
    Claudio,

    The Adobe forums can be accessed via newsreader through a variety of news servers, not just Adobe's.

    For instance, my ISP has its own news server featuring the Adobe forums. If I access the Adobe forums through them rater than through Adobe's Newsgroup server, I can do so without an Adobe ID.

    The downside to that is that my messages posted that way will not be visible on the web interface. Indeed, accessing the Adobe forums that way shows you more posts that you can read on the web forums, because of what I've just explained.

    Additionally, any posts deleted, censored or edited by forum hosts are freely accessible both through NNTP and the various web sites that mirror the Adobe forums, such as Google groups. For that reason, slanderous posts are beyond the reach of the forums hosts, even if they deleted them nearly instantly over here. >:(
    MichaelKazlow
    Legend
    March 17, 2009
    If you access the Adobe forums through an auxiliary/mirror news or web
    server you are really only dealing with an imperfect copy of the forums,
    since the auxiliary server doesn't have posting rights to the original
    server. There are literally dozens of such sites. You can find them by
    searching for your name and see it pop up in unexpected places.

    On the Macromedia side, formal signing in has not been necessary with
    nttp side access.

    Mike
    John T Smith
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    March 17, 2009
    Since the new forum will not have newsgroup access... why does it matter?

    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.59b7e5d1