What About Moderators in the New Forum?

> ... terribly amusing.

No, not amusing but sadly pathetic. Grow up you lot!

Ramon,

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Das glaube ich kaum. Your "fellow countrymen", in my considerable experience, are a hell of a lot smarter than you are, as an individual.
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only if you´re summing them all up ;-)

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They will need no explanations from me
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well, you clearly associated me with being a Nazi without any reason, and the non-nazi germans are indeed pretty sensible when this happens, because those who exhibit such a behaviour are traditionally also the ones who have no problems extending this to everyone out of the blue.

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German blood flows through my veins
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that´s alright, but you nonetheless didn´t seem to have understood some fundamental aspects in this regard.

Then it didn't succeed as far as relieving you of aggression, just in the other aspect.

Copy and paste from the Adobe site:

The Adobe Community Experts Program is a community based program made up of Adobe customers who share their product expertise with the world-wide Adobe community. The Adobe Community Experts' mission is to provide high caliber peer-to-peer communication educating and improving the product skills of Adobe customers worldwide.

All Adobe Community Experts are expected to exemplify the program fundamentals of product proficiency, enthusiasm, and professionalism towards Adobe and our customer base. In addition, Adobe Community Experts agree to be active contributors to the Adobe world-wide community by:

* Engaging in peer to peer support in the Adobe forums
* Posting information and technical support in their favorite online community
* Writing articles for professional publications
* Presenting Adobe product presentations at conferences and user groups

I must need new computer glasses. I don't see anything about appending the Adobe Community Expert moniker to their posts or after their names. :/

Or maybe things look different when you're hanging upside down in the Southern Hemisphere. :D

> Laugh yourself silly - may release some of your aggression.

> That begs the question: have you done that yourself?

Yes most definitely, all this spewing of animosity is terribly amusing.

I wish these so-called aces would learn how to format quotes!<br /><br />Incidentally, where are all the non-aces from the other side?<br /><br />We seem to be hearing solely from a bunch of invited heavies who have been invited in to spread their dubious forum philosophy.<br /><br />And of course Dorothy, who always claims to know just a little bit more than normal mortals.<br /><br />As I said about 100 posts ago this horse is now dead.<br /><br />I only came back to wonder at the insular and ill informed ranting.<br /><br /><span style="font-size:0.75em"><span style="color:#e8e8e8">(<Goes off to get on with something useful.></span></span>

@ Cindy -

you know the REAL ADOBE

> How hilarious you are. And I do not mean that as a compliment.

Laugh yourself silly also. As for compliments - don't need them and wouldn't expect any going by the attitude displayed here.

If you read back over the posts, you'll see that Ann is the one that keeps referring to the REAL ADOBE (whatever the heck that means) - I was only shouting back at her.

As for the Community Experts program, maybe do a search of the Adobe site and be better informed before posting things you know nothing about.

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As long as ACEs get their coveted little badges so they can strut through the Forums being self-important they are happy
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this weird thing that you´re saying here has one huge logical gap -- it postulates *that* we´re feeling self-important

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I remain unimpressed with their credentials
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me too, and in reality everyone is unimpressed by this title, as all that counts is if we´re capable to provide something of value.

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exploitive
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if you think it´s you who gets exploited, just don´t use our service

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If these people are being used as quasi-Adobe employees they should be both PAID a salary and labelled as Adobe Paid Staff on the Forums
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It´s truly heart-warming to see such a huge change in your attitude towards us, but rest assured: we´re probably even better off not being Adobe employess, as this gives us some independency which we´d otherwise certainly not have.

Most of us are self-employed or on a payroll since years anyway, so why swapping our own "outside adobe" careers we worked for that long ?

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they should drop these pointless and misleading labels
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while they might be pointless to you and some others, they are definitely not misleading, as Adobe has provided a clear definition of what Community Experts are and what we are not.

Again, you are not at all getting forced to accept what we are and do, and it´s up to you to avoid using our service. Just ignore us, as we will most likely be ignoring you under the current circumszances.

From the sound of things I sure don't like where things seem to be headed. It just gets worse. And they justify why it should get worse....

Nadia,
>Laugh yourself silly - may release some of your aggression.

That begs the question: have you done that yourself? I have to ask because you broadcast ambiguous signals. On the one hand, the tenor of your posts suggests a degree of silliness, which could have indeed come as a result of having laughed excessively to that extent; but, on the other hand, it obviously has not relieved you of your aggression.