What About Moderators in the New Forum?

>And I don't want to take a daring leap into the past by using a news reader.

No point in any case as it seems they won't be supported.

I think for people who use several forums (I use 8 regularly) speed in moving around is essential.

So is a wide overview on a single screen-full.

I have had to use Macromedia-type forums in the past and and was immediately aware of their deficiencies as explained by other posters here and elsewhere.

And I don't want to take a daring leap into the past by using a news reader. I was glad to see the back of them when I left Compuserve!

"That MM dung-heap is exactly what almost everyone who has contributed to this discussion from the Adobe Forums would like to avoid having dumped upon US."

And the very reason why the majority of regular posters to the MM forums use/d NNTP - not the web interface.

Have you tried NNTP for reading posts? I'm sure if you did, you'd probably agree that the web forums (be it MM or Adobe) are very slow and cumbersome.

I'm a Mentor over at Sitepoint where they use a web interface - including all the smilies and avatars mentioned during this thread.

However, I don't have any problems participating via the web at SP because there is no lag whatsoever in calling up posts or in answering them. This is not true of the Adobe Forums.

So why can't the Adobe forums (with many more resources than SP) be created to work in the same way.

I am sure there will be a handful of regular posters who will no longer participate in the new forums if NNTP is not available - and the web forum speed is no better than it is now.

>I completely agree. Content, content, content.

content is useless unless it's fast enough to keep the regulars - or at least someone who knows the programs - engaged. if it's slow, or cumbersome, or difficult to use, or frustrating, adobe will want to be looking to increase it's paid support personnel budget because the free support that IS the adobeforums will largely dry up.

> what's important about a forum is the quality of the discussion and the help that's given there.

I completely agree. Content, content, content.

Some things are essentials: can I read and post? Do the forums load fast enough to make my time efficient.

Some things are worth debating, but will not truly effect the main tasks of the forums.

But the current regulars will rest a bit easier if we know how we will (or for that matter will not) have input through providing feedback on a test site.

These are NOT minor details.

The junk that clutters the Macromedia side of the Forums (the very stuff that you are now proposing to add to the new Forums!) is what inhibits their usefulness.

That MM dung-heap is exactly what almost everyone who has contributed to this discussion from the Adobe Forums would like to avoid having dumped upon US.

It is probably the prime reason why so few of us from the Adobe Forums ever contribute to the MM ones and I, for one, find their turgid design and lack of functionality to be intolerable and downright unusable.

Surely what's important about a forum is the quality of the discussion and the help that's given there. Most of what I see here is people obsessing about minor details. The world is not going to end because Community Experts are identified or an individual's number of posts is displayed.

DAMMIT PHIL!

You shouldn't have posted either of your messages #85 & 86.

The claims you make are COMPLETELY illinformed, on almost all counts.

You have bigger problems than the occasional typo or grammatical errors, and that is not knowing what the heck you're talking about half the time in here.

>:(

The things that Stanley Jones mentions ("Adobe Community Expert" labels, coding for whether a question has been answered, a count of how many answers a poster has to their credit) have never been part of the Adobe Forums.

They have only been part of the formerly Macromedia Forums and seem to be viewed with anathema by virtually everyone who uses the Adobe Forums

The space and time that are wasted by these pointless "attributes" are the principal reason why I avoid visits to the MM Forums.

Don't know how I manged duplicated messages above. must've been a hiccup in the system