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harrytuttle777
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June 10, 2011
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Whatever happened to the adobe newsgoup nntp forums

  • June 10, 2011
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Thanks for any help / commentary you can give.

This should really be that last line

Haha.  Everytime I hit ENTER, the Javascript code on this forum takes me to the first line of the post.  This sould be on the last line, but it is on the first

These forums are a valuable place to find help, but I was wondering why adobe did away with the old Adobe newgroups.  Those newsgroups were even better.  Plain 80 column text.  None of this fancy gay HTML, stylized crap.  Sure you had a bit of spam, but that is the price of freedom.  Here, it is a pain in the but to get anything done.  The forums do not like my browser of choice (Opera), and want me to use a [edited by host] browser like Mozilla or IE.  Does anyone have any thoughts on theh matter, or would be interested in getting a Adobe NNTP newsgroup started.  I am one of those cromudgeons who don't like fancy graphics, and think that if you are using anything other than ed to edit code you are a [edited by host].

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    Claudio González
    Claudio González
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    June 10, 2011

    Harry, I took a look at messages from two years ago in the forum in Spanish. All posts by users of the NNTP version (ex-Macromedia forum) now appear simply as posted by Newsgroup_User, but they use their names to address each other in their messages. I recognize two or three who registered under almost exact names in the present forums and are still active, but if any of the others registered as well, which I doubt, they used very different screen names. So my guess is that, in spite of the dozens and dozens of messages of protest posted before the change, and the many promises to join again in their own newsgroup, that new newsgroup was never created. My guess and my doubts are based on the fact that those persons were a very active and very numerous group, while the present forum in Spanish is almost as dead as the PageMaker forum.

    I imagine the same thing happened in the forums in English.

    Noel Carboni
    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    June 10, 2011

    harrytuttle777 wrote:

    Thanks for any ... commentary you can give. 


    You want honest commentary?  Personally, I find your choices of wording and your attitude offensive.

    Forums with people helping people are the best things the Internet has to offer, competing with overwhelming things like porn and spam.  A web browser opens the sharing of information to all users.

    Though this forum software is far from perfect, if your browser isn't dealing with it any better than what you say, it's your own fault for your choice of browser or for not keeping it configured better.  Most browsers work pretty well here.

    -Noel

    John T Smith
    Community Expert
    John T SmithCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    June 10, 2011

    >Most browsers work pretty well here.

    While there are sometimes problems related to the forum software, my Internet Explorer does not cause me any problems

    Another message thread even had a note from the forum Admin that the software is going to be updated... but without a date, so evidently behind the scenes work has not been completed

    To the OP... as far as nntp going away... that was 2 or more years ago... so if you must have nntp, you will need to find or buy or build a forum of your own

    I wanted to keep the old forum software, but it didn't happen... so to learn and help, I use what is here... not always happily, but for Adobe reading, this is what there is

    Claudio González
    Claudio González
    Legend
    June 10, 2011

    Harry, you are not addressing Adobe here, just fellow users. And there are still old timers left, who strongly opposed the violent and forced imposition of this new version of the forums even during a theoretical initial trial period. Unfortunately, we did not succeed. Not only that, but we also lost many of the most valuable contributors of the old forums, either because they finally left in disgust when they saw that we were no longer heard, or because they were banned when they protested too violently. Some of us are still doing some sporadic efforts to change things for the better, or just getting bugs corrected, but our efforts are not welcome. Such efforts are getting unfortunately more sporadic, so may be Adobe will finally win this battle. At what price, only the future can tell.

    Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear.

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    harrytuttle777Author
    Known Participant
    June 10, 2011

    Hopefully I can type my answer without having to type "Enter"

    Claudio, thanks for the reply.  It was helpfull. I really did not expect to have adobe answer and change their minds about the current direction of the web.  I am trying to put a feeler out there and see if there are any USERS who still know what NNTP is or would be interesting in learning about it.

    I realize the way of the world is gay HTML, fancy graphics, and style over information, and I have to adapt to it.  However that doesn't mean I have to take it lying down. 

    I was really wondering if there would be any support for a newsgroup not sponsored by adobe.  Just users helping other users.

    Thanks

    Claudio González
    Claudio González
    Legend
    June 10, 2011

    Harry, my guess is that you would find great support in the ex-Macromedia products users. It was them who had a sort of NNTP newsgroup; we ex-Adobe users only had a normal site like this one, but no-nonsense, fast, and highly functional. I wouldn't know how to identify any of them nowadays, but I will give it a try in the forums in Spanish if I have the time. Unfortunately, I understand that a majority of them just left, but I remember that many of them were talking of forming their own group.

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