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Kath-H
Kath-H
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March 5, 2009
Question

Why are we here?

  • March 5, 2009
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I've posted this, but I think we need to get back to basics.

>What Adobe wants to hear is cogent, rational and professional responses to their proposals to change the forums.

>See, Oz, that's the problem. We are not being told in any detail what their proposals are, and we have no idea how much we can influence them.

>Take the issue of a 'question answered' indication. Will there be one? In what form? Is there any point saying whether we want one or not?

>We just get fuzzy, obscure comments about how some things might be there out of the box, it might be possible to add or subtract some features, but we don't know whether or which.

>If Adobe wants cogent, rational and professional responses, they (it?) really need(s?) to make some cogent, rational and professional proposals for us to discuss.

>Otherwise we're going round in circles.
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    D__McCahill
    Known Participant
    March 6, 2009
    > And there's always a few that just want to rant without providing any reasoning for their positions.

    You think?
    PJonesCET
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    March 6, 2009
    On DVL comments. True the people here commenting and venting and so on might not even make the needle move. Most then there are legions of people that would like to but are fearful to or too shy to go so publicly with their views. we all speak for the silent majority who won't speak up.
    Chris Cox
    Chris Cox
    Legend
    March 5, 2009
    Adobe personnel are not going to respond to every post on every topic. We are responding where needed, but otherwise just listening. Not always agreeing, not always acting immediately, but listening.

    The small number of people posting here don't represent the average very well - but the posters do often raise good points that need to be taken into consideration. And there's always a few that just want to rant without providing any reasoning for their positions.
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    Anonymous
    March 5, 2009
    to answer that wouldn't you need to know the percentage of help that the posters here provide? i mean the reason many people here are posting on the subject at all is because they're passionate about it. we're here every day, helping adobe's bottom line. i think we (as a small minority) deserve a say.

    if many of the people posting here left because they got royally cheesed off (and i'm not saying that they will leave), would they be replaced? maybe. maybe not quickly. maybe not at all.
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    Dirck
    Participating Frequently
    March 5, 2009
    As I understand it, nearly a quarter million people have posted on these forums. How many are embroiled in these discussions? Can they be said to represent a majority? Although their opinions are as legitimate as any, are they not so small in number that they would not budge the needle on the opine-o-meter?
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    Anonymous
    March 5, 2009
    (yes, that was a joke)
















    but seriously, aikodude at ... :)
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    Anonymous
    March 5, 2009
    speaking personally, for a copy of photoshop cs4 extended (email aikodude at yahoo dot com to seal the deal) i'll put up with whatever adobe wants me to put up with. :)
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    Anonymous
    March 5, 2009
    So, to echo the title of the thread: why the hell are we bothering to provide feedback when we get no acknowledgement that our opinions or requests are of any concern to JC's team; and the only response we get is the complacent attitudes (and platitudes!) from the "Adobe Community Experts" cadre?

    Basically, it is becoming more than apparent that we are going to be expected to "just put up" with whatever the development team chooses to dish out to us.

    Adobe might just care to reflect that "loyalty is a two-way street".
    Stan Jones
    Community Expert
    Stan JonesCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    March 5, 2009
    Also at John's one level back: look again at "what are the changes."

    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b7c4fe

    I'm not bothered by this, but I do think we are talking about a done deal with some continuing work on tweaks. I have not gone back to John's posts, but he was not promising lots of input, and I don't think he said anything that contradicts the faqs.
    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Jacob BuggeCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    March 5, 2009
    >Why are we here?

    In an old B.C. strip the answer was: So the plants can get carbon dioxide.

    A present addition might be: Mission Accomplished.
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