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sason50515634
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October 13, 2016
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Calibrated monitor, after that Lightroom preview different then PS. Need help!

  • October 13, 2016
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OK, I will write this step by step and hopfully it will be simple to understand.

Today I calibrated my monitor with x-rite i1 display pro. I did everything right and at the end I got this new profile, that I marked it with date, so I will know in the future, when it was made.

After that, I went to my WIN 10 coior manegement and assign this new profile as Default (previously it was sRGB IEC61966-2.1). See image:

And in Advanced options, I have this default settings:

In Photoshop, I also changed Color settings to this new profile:

Now, images in windows photo viewer and in Photoshop, they all look ok and the same. But in LR, previews are dull, no colors, different than in Photoshop.

If I export image from LR to JPG and than upload to PS, image looks ok.

How can I fix the look of the image in LR? I have sRGB chosen there. I guess it should be "this new profile" but in LR I can not find any Color settings like in PS.

What am I doing wrong?

Were my steps of calibrating process OK?

Any help would be aprishiated.

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Correct answer TheDigitalDog

sason50515634 wrote:

So I should leave sRGB in Photoshop Color settings and not choose new profile I created?

Where will I see my images as they should be? So I could send them to printing lab and I know that the'd look ok?

For the other thing: should I choose preserved Embedded Color profile or Convert to working RGB?

Thank you

The display profile is totally separate from the RGB working space you use to edit your images! They do not and should not match. One describes the RGB behavior of your display after calibration for previews. The other the RGB scale of the numbers you are editing.

Start here in terms of color settings and then come back and ask further questions:

http://digitaldog.net/files/Photoshop_Color_Settings.mov

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sason50515634
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October 15, 2016

I see. I have now set it like these and I can see right colors, as were shown in my LR and PS, after calibration. So far so good.

I am also sending test prints to my studio, so I can confirm, that I have right colors and we're set.

Thanks for everything.

sason50515634
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2016

But it is default Photo viewer in WIN10. It should work... I mean, what other good option win10 has? None. :-/

Hmm, I'll have to figure this out. In the meantime I'll just save photo from PS that is good there. I won't judge preview from Photos

D Fosse
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October 14, 2016

sason50515634 wrote:

But it is default Photo viewer in WIN10. It should work...

Windows "Photos" is not color managed, in contrast to its predecessor, "Windows Photo Viewer", which was. A small step for mankind, but a little too big a leap for Microsoft it would seem. But there it is.

The Eizo S2433 is a wide gamut monitor. These monitors must be used with fully color managed software to work as intended, no exceptions! Without color management, everything will display oversaturated.

sason50515634
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October 14, 2016

Yeah, Eizo is now calibrated and I can see now the original colors, I was sending to color lab. They were too dark and undersaturated.

Eizo showed them to me as correct. But it's ok now. True colors are now in LR and PS and that is enough. Will get used to the photo viewer antd it's oversaturated preview of JPEGs. As long as the real files are OK.

Thanks everyone for help, it really cleared my vison of what is going with this calibration thing.

sason50515634
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2016

Oh and one more thing:

Now LR and PS have the same look of the images. But Photo viewer shows them much more saturated.

I have now good colors only in LR and PS. Shouldn't also Photo viewer see the same?

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
October 13, 2016

sason50515634 wrote:

Oh and one more thing:

Now LR and PS have the same look of the images. But Photo viewer shows them much more saturated.

I have now good colors only in LR and PS. Shouldn't also Photo viewer see the same?

IF they don't match LR and PS, they are not color managed. The previews are wrong. Nothing you can do; don't use them!

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
sason50515634
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October 13, 2016

OK, I think I got it now! Correct me if I am wrong, please 

This color profile I created via X-rite is made only for "viewing purposes", so I can see correct colors of my files which are processed by sRGB by default (LR and PS).

And that is why I see them more dull and darker. The exact way that they came in my photobook from my printing studio, where print from sRGB.

But before calibration all images were saturated and "looking good", but printing lab can't lie. They delivered actual sRGB colors.

Now I can see those as they are and just need to work harder on them, to make them look good.ew


The only "problem" I have now is, that new images are now much more saturated when I post them online. Is that normal?

sason50515634
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2016

So I should leave sRGB in Photoshop Color settings and not choose new profile I created?

Where will I see my images as they should be? So I could send them to printing lab and I know that the'd look ok?

For the other thing: should I choose preserved Embedded Color profile or Convert to working RGB?

Thank you

TheDigitalDog
TheDigitalDogCorrect answer
Inspiring
October 13, 2016

sason50515634 wrote:

So I should leave sRGB in Photoshop Color settings and not choose new profile I created?

Where will I see my images as they should be? So I could send them to printing lab and I know that the'd look ok?

For the other thing: should I choose preserved Embedded Color profile or Convert to working RGB?

Thank you

The display profile is totally separate from the RGB working space you use to edit your images! They do not and should not match. One describes the RGB behavior of your display after calibration for previews. The other the RGB scale of the numbers you are editing.

Start here in terms of color settings and then come back and ask further questions:

http://digitaldog.net/files/Photoshop_Color_Settings.mov

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Legend
October 13, 2016

If you don't match your colour settings between LightRoom and Photoshop, you are going to get different colours. But let's look at your steps. So far as I can see calibrating is good. Setting as Windows monitor is good. But setting it as your RGB profile in Photoshop is unusual at best. You would normally continue to design with whatever RGB profile you had set up - and if you want accurate display in the widest range of monitors, web browsers and mobile devices, sRGB may be the way to go. Photoshop knows what colour you want and makes sure it is converted for accurate display on the monitor, using the SYSTEM monitor settings. The actual colours remain sRGB and display as such in other apps.

Legend
October 13, 2016

Oh, and the selection "Off" for RGB colour management policies is suspect. It means that any RGB image, no matter WHAT profile it used, is treated as using the RGB profile. Unless they happen to be the SAME profile, this lack of conversion is going to produce wrong display.