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Workflow with Essential Graphics templates and sharing with customers

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April 24, 2017
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Hi,

Before this upgrade, I used to create a Premiere Pro project file with a set of sequences where I included .aecap files to show what my clients could do with the templates. The .aecap files resided inside a folder in the project panel and clients duplicated these to make own work.

The .aecap files was placed in a gfx folder and zipped into a package which my clients could unzip and then relink the aecap files to use.

Whenever I made new versions of the aecap files, I sent them a new zip file which included an updated Premiere-project with new files. These zip files was versioned, so that they would know which version to use.

With the introduction of Essential Graphics and .mogrt files, I think I need to re-think my workflow.

The reason is that the .mogrt files need to be installed. Ok, so I'll install all of the .mogrt files, and place them into folders in the Essential Graphics browse panel.

If I zip this project and send it, the installed files will perhaps follow along in the local Essential Graphics library?

- Nope.

(Implement this, and my problem would be solved.)

How about installing all of the .mogrt files at once? Nope. So I'll have to say to my clients they have to install the templates one by one each time I send them an upgrade? At least 21 files every time. Not going to happen.

Ok. So I'll place all of the .mogrt files on a timeline like I did before. What happens?

Premiere creates a folder called "Motion Graphics Template Media"

My clients would then not be able to use the Browse panel in Essential Graphics. But is this going to work?

I save my project together with a folder Premiere has created in my project folder, also called "Motion Graphics Template Media" to a new location, and disconnect my computer from the network I created my "master" project on.

Opening up the duplicate on a different computer - in the previous version using aecap files - this would have Premiere prompt for relocating files. I had them organized in a folder I had created myself (with different folders for different resolutions) - not a temp folder Premiere now has created for me.

What happens now is that premiere is offlining all of the files inside Motion Graphics Template Media.

I right-click on the folder and chose relink. Premiere now asks me to relink files within folders with a temp name.

Once I found one of the files (now called .aegraphic ) by looking at the temp folder names, Premiere finds the other files.

Now. This worked. But this not only seems like a bad workflow. It also seems unprofessional to start the application with a project showing nothing but "Media offline" and have to ask clients to relink to folders with temp names.

The one thing I haven't mentioned here is Creative Cloud Libraries - but I just wanted to share with you my old workflow - and frankly, I am not sure all of my clients would have access to CC Libraries because of strict firewalls. We have also have had problems with sync issues when testing Creative Cloud folders in the past. But I will test this as well and post back.

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Pål Engh

Participant

Thank you for helpful descriptions.

Would the Dynamic Link Server be useful?

If the folder location for the graphics is the same in all locations, would it be possible to just update the AE files on the client side?

kjetils30485119Author

Inspiring

I have just created a script which the client needs to run - all it does is placing/replacing files in this folder.

michaelm11605974

Known Participant

Hi,

If folders aren't available now what have they been replaced with Libraries? I can't find a way to move / install essential graphics to libraries to share with the team. There is a Libraries check box and drop down list but I can't see a way to install / move them into a Library... These are pre-made graphics, around 60+.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

I think at this point looking up some of the Libraries information would help you and your organization. You can set up multiple libraries for different things or teams, and everyone can share. It also means someone developing your graphics can have good control over which version of a graphic is available. You update the logo, they remove the old one as they put the new one in the proper spot in the proper library.

No one then can use the old or "wrong" one accidentally.

The PrPro help system has several things on Libraries.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

N

nazeninasif

Participating Frequently

I hope it helps: https://youtu.be/muICQ9rEFLs

Roei Tzoref

Legend

this is troubling. thank you for the careful inspection of this issue. the lack of a source file that could relate to a clip in the project panel is making this workflow difficult for changes.

here are the problems the way I see it:

1. Can't install many motion graphic templates in one operation:

**the motion graphic template requires installation every time and only one at a time (can't multi-select) making it difficult to bulk import and work faster with many templates that require updates and replacement for new instances.

2. No organized way to replace an old template with a new template:

you can drag from the EGP over the clip in the timeline with the Alt key, but what if you got many instances in the timeline or at other sequences?

you can drag the new motion graphic template to the timeline and then you get a clip in the project panel so you can "replace with clip" the old for the new, but you need to select all the clips... a workaround if it is just one sequence is to select label group so you can select all of them in the timeline (as long as you don't have other rose labels..) and then replace with clip from bin.

what about replacing the source? you can but it's complicated - the mograph file is linking to an aegraphic file in a complicated folder structure and the only way to actually replace source file in the project panel with source file in explorer/finder, is to unlink and relink to the new file - very complicated and error prone.

theoretically you could drag the new template to the timeline, then you get a clip in the project bin, and replace source for source in the project panel if it was possible in premiere, but no source to replace source command in Premiere that I know of (like in Ae's project panel drag source with Alt the new over the old source).

here's an example of a user that wants to replace/change the source template so all of its clips that are spread around in multiple sequences will be replaced:

Methods for updating Motion Graphics from Ae to PPro

I am waiting for instructions how is this workflow supposed to work if you have many files, and increment saves that require replacement.

R

roberts95572240

Participant

Adobe should keep building into the Essential Graphics - it's SO incredibly helpful from a workflow, and it can be a REAL money maker for graphic artists.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

I agree ... the mogrt's either from PrPro or from Ae are really an amazing extension of graphic design, but the whole workflow needs some additional tweaking or at least delineation so how we use them in multiple-user work, and for those like the OP delivering a project to clients ... to know exactly what to do.

Maybe jstrawn could be of use on this question, he's rather knowledgeable on the mogrt's front.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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