segregation is a new democracy

[Vol4a]

Good afternoon! Today I read the news in your corporate blog  and I want to ask some clarifying questions. 

You write that you don't want  your programs to be used by Russian media and government, but what should we, ordinary students, designers and illustrators do with that? Correct me if i understood something wrong: it is your understanding of democracy - to deprive everyone’s access to licensed programs, even those who is far-far away from the government, Russian army and the whole military conflict in Ukraine? Correct me again:  your understanding of democracy is a sudden restriction of the right to use a product on a national basis (as it was in Germany for Jews at the beginning of the 20th century, and in the United States during segregation of African Americans)? Do I understand correctly that just the fact that I’m Russian automatically makes me a second-class person not worthy to pay for your subscriptions and use your services?

I am writing from my personal account (not from my work account) so you can block me if you really think that segregation based on nationality is democracy.

Me and my team were your clients for many years. Now we are doing a kids project about environmental protection and conscious consumption. And I want to know Adobe's position: does teaching children the basics of an eco-friendly lifestyle and time management is adding aggression against Ukraine? Does teaching students the basics of design and illustration somehow can help in military operations?

If you think that blocking access to professional and educational tools for ordinary students or designers and illustrators (and  restricting their right to study and work) only on their national basis - because they are unlucky to be Russians - is your support of democracy and saving the world from very-very-very evil Russian artists who are peacefully doing their work, then, please, let me know. Because until this moment I sincerely believed that segregation for the United States and nazism for Europe were remnants of the past. And I believed also that civilized companies will never return to this.

P.S. If now we need to show you our nationality or skin color to get access to the software, then I hasten to inform you that I am Jewish, have Russian citizenship and half of my family come from Ukraine and Belarus. Do I need to report my sexual orientation too or am I segregated only by one of the indicated signs?

Thank you for your consideration,

V,

Segregated Russian designer

[Kukurykus]

That's sad. I don't understand it as well beside fact if Adobe won't separate from the sales in your country then US is going to punish them as not being obedient to current guideline. 

Adobe's Selling Politics

[Vol4a]

Thank you for your position! For me and my team, long-term Adobe users, it is very important to know that we are not alone. I really hope that ordinary users from Russia will be able to continue their education and their harmless work despite the global policy. There is so much agggresion right now around us, you know...

I will waiting for further information about subscription payments and future for all ordinary (non-military and non-governmental) Russian users and saving hope that our nationality will not become a subject of xenophobia in professional fields at least...

Thank you for your kind reply!

[Jjse5C80]

В дополнение к вашему комментарию можно указать, что согласно официальным данным в России проживает и работает около 5 миллионов Украинцев (не считая граждан, которые получили Российское гражданство). Это вторая по численности национальная диаспора в стране. Практически у каждогого из нас есть друзья, знакомые, родственники из Украины. Жители наших стран тесно связны друг с другом несмотря на текущую ситуацию.

Мне кажется, что публичная позиция компании связана в первую очередь со страхом потери репутации, а не с теми целями которые они заявляют. Санкции в отношении частных пользователей лишены смысла.

[Kukurykus]

It's an interesting notice, all the more, sanctions for Adobe products harm goverment officies the least, much more ordinaly users.

[Daria23443730xnt0]

Bravo 👏🏻

[John T Smith]

This is a public forum with mostly other users, not Adobe support and not a place where Adobe reads user comments... at least not the Adobe management that makes decisions

Any Adobe employee who does post here is in support, not part of management to make company decisions

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[Peru Bob]

Just to be clear about this:

Adobe Community Professionals are not Adobe employees and our opinions do not necessarily represent the official policy of Adobe.

[jane-e]

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@Vol4a wrote:

Good afternoon! Today I read the news in your corporate blog and I want to ask some clarifying questions. 

You write...

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Please note that all comments here are from volunteers who do not work for Adobe. All we know is what we also read in the post from Shantanu Narayen that you linked to. Anything you read here that is not from an employee with an Employee badge is a personal opinion.

Jane

Forum volunteer

[LinSims]

It may not even be Adobe's choice. Software sales to foreign countries are often regulated by the federal government. It's possible (I haven't looked into it) that Adobe is complying with the sanctions being imposed by the United States government.

[Autumn23489528gxsb]

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