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Contracts: how to tell if signature is made by the real person or faked

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March 19, 2022
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Hello
The builder of our house says that our architect forged the builder's signature to get the contract signed. But the builder says he never signed the contract between us and his business.
How do I establish if it really was the builder who made the e-signature in our contract or if it was in fact our architect faking the builder's e-signature?
Something that may help is that our builder was in Turkey at the time of signing and our architect was in London, UK.
Looking forward to your replies.

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Correct answer Meenakshi Negi

Hi Laura,

Thank you for reaching out, and sorry about the delay in response.

If the document is signed via Adobe Sign, you will receive an audit report with the signed document. The audit report will be attached at the end of the document, or you can download it from the Acrobat Online account.

You may check the audit report on Acrobat Online account using the following steps:

1. Open the following link: https://acrobat.adobe.com/ and sign in with your Adobe credentials.

2. Go to the Documents tab > Agreements.

3. Open the required document from the list and click on the download audit report.

You may refer to the following help document for more information: https://helpx.adobe.com/sign/using/audit-reports-transaction-history.html.

Let us know if you have a question.

Thanks,

Meenakshi

Meenakshi NegiCorrect answer

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Hi Laura,

Thank you for reaching out, and sorry about the delay in response.

If the document is signed via Adobe Sign, you will receive an audit report with the signed document. The audit report will be attached at the end of the document, or you can download it from the Acrobat Online account.

You may check the audit report on Acrobat Online account using the following steps:

1. Open the following link: https://acrobat.adobe.com/ and sign in with your Adobe credentials.

2. Go to the Documents tab > Agreements.

3. Open the required document from the list and click on the download audit report.

You may refer to the following help document for more information: https://helpx.adobe.com/sign/using/audit-reports-transaction-history.html.

Let us know if you have a question.

Thanks,

Meenakshi

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laurat78728528Author

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Hi Meenakshi
That's exactly the information I needed - thank you so much.
Kind regards
Laura

Chris 486

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Hi Laura!

Hopefully this help document can provide what you need to validate a signed signature in adobe.

Validating digital signatures, Adobe Acrobat

Chris 486

Community Expert

Expanding on this a bit based on the locations you mentioned, a possible easy way to tell is by checking the IP of where the document was signed. It will show in your signed certificate in acrobat. You can plug that IP address into the geo IP checker on a trusted site like IP Location / WhatsMyIP.org

It will ideally show a location in either turkey or london assuming they are not using something like a VPN. That may help your conversation to move forward.

Good luck!

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laurat78728528Author

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Hi Chris

That's a great idea but there's no IP address stated anywhere, nor names of signers. I've attached a screenshot for you to see.
However there is the date of signing plus the source of trust is obtained from European Union Trusted Lists which is issued by 'Intesi Group EU Qualified Electronic Seal CA G2'.
Is something I'd see if it was signed in the UK, or might it point towards the signing location being in Turkey?
Kind regards and thanks for your help so far.

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