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AI guidelines overly restrictive

Forum|Forum|2 years ago
February 8, 2024
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I can't be the only user finding the AI's enforcement of community guidelines infuriatingly puritanical. Every idea I have for artistic expression seems to be taboo; it's like I have some priggish moralist constantly looking over my shoulder waggling its finger at every thought I attempt to express. With the generative fill, even the most innocent request can be rejected because something elsewhere in the image is deemed too suggestive or too violent or just not up to its priggish standards of wholesomeness. I can appreciate Adobe mighn't want its name associated with the creation of hardcore pornographic images, for example. But must everything be rated PG? And even when it is. Consider this example.

I'm working on the illustrations for a children's book I've written, a tale for five-year-olds about puppy dogs. One page reads: 'It started just the day before/ In Leafy Green Reserve / A park where dogs all run and play / A lark all dogs deserve." So, to use as the background, I asked Firefly to generate: 'A leafy green park with a lush lawn and big, shady trees." Took me a moment to figure out how that one could be thought in violation of the AI's pearl-clutching community guidelines. Well, Adobe, your attempts to stifle my freedom of intellectual expression says less about my aesthetic vision and more about what your programmers must be smoking.

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nicholas_5600

Participant

100%. Given the awful stuff some AI systems are spewing out, firefly is rediculously over-regulated. Good luck using it for actual art. Unless you're trying to create an elf-woman in a bikini (which seems to be about 90% of all AI content) or maybe a cute cartoon kitten (the other 10% - like we need more kittens on the internet) Firefly is useless.

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trango_6152

Participant

I am extremely dissapointed with how restrictive adobe firefly is, I am just not going to use it and look for alternative AI software. This is ridiculous. I hate this application!!!!

Derek Cross

Community Expert

In which way have you found Firefire to be "restrictive"?

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naudev84554406

Participant

Is this a serious question, it can't generate the most bais cof prompts

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Oh.N8

@Jenny31275326edxo
As you may have encountered word choice is important.

I tried several prompts:
mob of people in dark alley (no luck)
gangster in dark alley

group men wearing black trench coats and sunglasses in dark alley (worked)
Keep in mind that word choice does matter. I find describing what I have in mind works. Play w the settings, the effects. If you already have an image pop that image into composition reference to help FF.
trench coats

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Jenny31275326edxo

Participant

That's ridiculous. I'm trying to create stories about mobsters and demons. Imagine my difficulty. I suppose the self-appointed moral guardians at Adobe don't want my readers to see anything like this - cause, you know - they know best!

Monika Gause

Community Expert

Nobody keeps you from drawing what you imagine.

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Lachiripiorca

Participant

so Photoshop AI is about what adobe moral team suspect ( not actual see what's in the image) is about? for example I've tried to extend a leg of a table in an image nut that violates adobe guidelines.

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Jenny31275326edxo

Participant

I'm creating stories to share on Youtube. Some of these stories have supernatural or criminal elements. Firefly doesn't allow 'demonic' or 'crime' to be searched up, which makes it hard to create a villain. Does anyone know of any terms that might work to help me use AI to create an image of a mafia guy?

Janos ThanatosAuthor

Participating Frequently

Adobe's policy makes sense, since talking about of demons can be dangerous, as I discovered by prompting Firefly with this quote from Plato: '...every wise man who happens to be a good man is more than human both in life and death, and is rightly called a demon.' This was the consequnce:

Photoshop started talking in tongues. I better call the exorcist!

rayek.elfin

Legend

If you need total/more freedom in genAI, the only answer lies in open source, for better or for worse.

Krita plus its genAI plugin do everything that Photoshop's genAI and Firefly do, and:

1) without any prompt limits;

2) for free;

3) with (much) better results;

4) as simple to use (if not simpler);

5) work local on your own computer without the need to be online (but there is an online option as well if your machine can't handle it)

If you need control, you take back control yourself. 🙂

Of course, relying on open source also means relying on the stolen work of thousands of fellow artists and photographers around the world. Not that Firefly hasn't done any of that... 😉

Nothing comes for free!

michaela809875

Participant

Right there with you Janos. Changing the pistol grip on a retro-future space gun? Nope... violaitons. Changing hair to dreadlocks... violation of community guidelines... it's downright draconian. When I pick up a paintbrush, I expect to be able to paint with it. Photoshop in a tool that I used to own and now have to rent. I want to use it without some etheral big brother telling me what art is.