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It keeps putting my structure reference over the style reference instead of creating a texture

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May 30, 2024 May 30, 2024

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When creating a 3d style text, most of the time the text in the structure reference will be placed over the style reference. Is there any way or prompt to make sure a certain texture is added to my texts instead of creating different layers?Scherm­afbeelding 2024-05-30 om 15.38.33.pngexpand image

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May 30, 2024 May 30, 2024

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For example: liquid, reflective, shiny chrome material, polished, 3d, isolated on black background

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May 30, 2024 May 30, 2024

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Hello @J.P.G.37732095w4a1,

Thank you for your message. I am sorry you are having this problem. 

Thanks for your message. I am sorry you are having difficulty with structure reference. 

 

If that image of letters you are using as a structure reference is a transparent image, try making it not be transparent with a contrasting colour. If it is not a transparent image, try inverting the colours.

 

Let us know if this works or not.

 

Thanks,
    droopy

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May 31, 2024 May 31, 2024

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Hi There, 

 

Thanks for your answer. The results now are better, but still give a lot of ground reflections. Is there any way to just isolate the words/letters?

 

Thanks in Advance!

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May 31, 2024 May 31, 2024

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Hi @J.P.G.37732095w4a1 ,

 

If your structure image is clear, and strength is set to high, you are then left to use the prompt to get what you want.  You can tell Firefly where you want it to have white space with things like "white space around edges", etc.  Might take some experimentation.

 

    droopy

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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The structure ref just doesn't work. I have tried everything. inverting single letter, square, 16.9. Its broken. Just doesn't pay attention to any of the structure that is imputed in.  It's worse with longer words

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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@Daniel25664115hlq2, can you please share the source files?

 

Thanks,

    droopy

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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The structure reference image needs to have the exact same dimensions as the resulting format. Does it have that?

 

But apart from that: what you are seeing as demos on social media is the result of hours of prompting and hundreds of iterations.

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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Yes, @Monika Gause, the demos make it look like you will get the perfect structure reference generation in 3 easy steps! 😑

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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Exacrtly. I have asked that creator about it for exactly that reason. That video I inquired about was originally 2 hours long and contained about 300 iterations of the same prompt.

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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@droopydog500 @Monika Gause @Daniel25664115hlq2 

Hey! Are we trying to create a letter made of cotton candy or putting a letter on cotton candy? I'm confused LOL!

This took me 2 minutes in Firefly...

 

Firefly A letter made of pink cotton candy, with detailed textures isolated on a white background 76.jpgexpand image

The link: 

https://firefly.adobe.com/shared/texttoimage?id=urn:aaid:sc:US:51414904-0114-4116-a0f2-945a6f77d2f5

https://firefly.adobe.com/shared/texttoimage?id=urn:aaid:sc:US:6e2527de-8fab-4abd-92a3-07bd01796eba

 

Firefly A letter made of pink cotton candy, with detailed textures isolated on a white background 0.jpgexpand image

 

Is this what we are trying to achieve ? I don't want to clutter the thread if it isn't, but I will explain how I did this in 1 interation if needed.

 

Firefly Letters composed of pink cotton candy isolated on a white background 0.jpgexpand image

https://firefly.adobe.com/shared/texttoimage?id=urn:aaid:sc:US:9dea92dc-f1e0-4e3e-9c93-d2f3fd07c337

 

 

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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@Dave Gustafson, yes, basically how I would do it, but he his "a" was a specific font. That is why I asked for the file.  Some structure files seem to be easier than others for adherance to the structure.

 

    droopy

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Jun 03, 2024 Jun 03, 2024

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Well if the desired result is a letter made of cotton candy, the word "ball" in the prompt is self-defeating "shrug"

Firefly A letter made of pink cotton candy, with detailed textures isolated on a white background 78.jpgexpand image

https://firefly.adobe.com/shared/texttoimage?id=urn:aaid:sc:US:c64927bf-b7bc-4a38-9c89-3225d19a8c59

 

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Jan 02, 2025 Jan 02, 2025

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THIS is what i've been trying to do for hours! following all these social media posts, and i kept getting results like OP. how do i make sure it works like you? Is it ALL about matching aspect ratio of reference and output? or are there other things to look out for?

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Jan 02, 2025 Jan 02, 2025

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Did you read this complete thread?

Can you post your results?

And your prompt and the references?

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Jan 02, 2025 Jan 02, 2025

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Hi @Monika Gause , im going to try now using @Dave Gustafson 's links and prompts but with my own letters to see if i can emulate, maybe i was doing somethign wrong with prompts or input aspect ratios as Dave mentions. and i will write with results!

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Jan 02, 2025 Jan 02, 2025

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@Monika Gause i've used @Dave Gustafson 's link/prompt and all i did was upload my own reference. the letter M in my own choice of font. I tried all kinds of sizes, and i tried inverting from black letter on white background, into white letter on black background, and this is the best i've got. still cant get what @Dave Gustafson  got and i did exact same prompt just a different letter. i matched the ratio too. is there a specific output format i need to export when making the reference text? By the way i am exporting JPG from Photoshop.

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AVA6C2%3A5462e66b-4e2c-4a91-b1cc-2cdcc962de...

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Jan 03, 2025 Jan 03, 2025

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Hello @Lanther13,

I moved the strength slider for composition reference to the middle and it seems to work:

 

IMG_0855.pngexpand imageIMG_0856.jpegexpand image

My best,
    droopy

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hi @droopydog500 , thanks for trying to help!!

i did exactly what you did above, with my link, and i get this lol! not even the same letter as in the reference and not same font. you got much better results. btw i tried two or 3 more attempts with the same settings, all kind of these random results. maybe i should not use chrome? lol. or Mac problem? but it's web based.. so strange.

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AVA6C2%3A43ac612c-97dd-49fb-8a4e-266df0c0de...

 

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AVA6C2%3A43ac612c-97dd-49fb-8a4e-266df0c0de...

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Jan 03, 2025 Jan 03, 2025

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The people who make the videos have hundreds of attempts and then cut those down to 2 minutes.

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@Monika Gause is right, it is not as easy as some of the people in videos make it look.

 

try starting from this one:

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3A91b2224d-81d5-4613-b763-2076c5f33f4c&...

 

    droopy

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@droopydog500  thanks! this one works better! i think it must be a mixture of the prompt actually asking for the letter, and then that letter in the reference, and the sliders like you did, ill experiment with some others later today using your template!

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