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Proper UK representation of scenes

Participant ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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I'd like to generate images suitable for the average person in the UK. Our everyday scenes are completely different to the USA: our streets are different; we don't have many snow capped mountains; our hills are green and lush; our furnishings are different; our pubs are unique..... I won't go on!! Is there a key keyword I should be using?

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Participant , Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AEU%3A52dad896-5570-44cd-b4dd-2746d83c31f5&ff_channel=shared_link&ff_source=Text2Image

 

 

And what’s the French Eiffel Tower doing in a British image?!

I am beginning to think this won’t work for UK images….

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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It does try to tailor results based on where it thinks you are. It is odd that you are in the UK and seemingly it think you are in the United States. Is it possible you are connected to a corporate network or VPN that is in the United States?

 

You can try to add "United Kingdom" or other local regions in your prompts. Specifying a location overrides the default location determination by Firefly.

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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I'm afraid these suggestions aren't part of the problem:

My IP is domestic and definitely English;

I have used "UK" in my prompts but the images still look like I am based in the Blue Ridge Mountains and have a brother called John Boy!

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Can you please include a link to one of these?

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Participant ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Here you go. The prompt was "A watercolour of a row of English terraced houses on a roadside." This looks like we still live in Shakespearean times!

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AEU%3Abc5e20dd-4490-4777-8458-8c4c50dc4126&...

 

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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PS thank you droopydog500 for taking an interest 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Is this any better?

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A watercolour of a row of victorian terraced houses on a roadside. (english british london ) 

 

If not, can you refer me to a photo of the type of houses you are talking about?

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Participant ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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In this particular instance of trying to accurately portray a British terraced house, few things jump out at me. Much of suburban Britain (especially up North) has much smaller terraces, they don't have attic dormers, nor steps down to the pavement. Often there are no trees. Example of a typical street of terraces attached. Obviously houses are just one aspect of the rendition of the UK vs USA but used as a clear example of my problems. I would happily add to a render but am struggling to remove!

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Adobe Employee ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Hi @Chris Maddrell 

 

If you use the "Watercolor" effect from the effects panel and remove it from the prompt you'll get a much better more British result!

Then you can start adding in more details , adding in the river and a quintiessentially british background, I'll leave the weather as optional the less British the better there!! Here are a couple of examples...

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Agree on watercolour change...  Getting closer...  Also added exclude words.

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row of continuous square low-pitched-roof two-story British terraced houses small-simple-windows on ... 

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Thanks for the advice. Clearly I need to learn the right language for Firefly prompts! 

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Mentor ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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How does this look to you @Chris Maddrell?

 

I travelled the British Isles quite a bit before moving to CA, and this looks alright to me. The vibe is certainly there.

 

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From bottom to first:

water colour painting of modern British City street

water colour painting of Manchester City Centre cars travelling on road

water colour painting of Scottish Highlands vollage with one lane and hills in the background, cars travelling on road

water colour painting of British village street with one lane and hills in the background

water colour painting of British Scottish street with terraced houses

water colour painting of British London street with terraced houses

water colour painting of British street with terraced houses

 

"Digital Artwork (XL) AI model" was selected, and the first five are the first results. The city centre ones took a few more tries to get a good looking one.

 

Obviously not done in Firefly of course, but in open source & free Krita and its AI plugin. Runs locally on my machine without the need for external internet servers (after the initial download of the installation).

 

PS I tested Krita with its AI plugin on a Studio M2 Mac, and it actually works! Much slower to render than on my Nvidia 3080, though. Images like the ones above render in 10 seconds, or so, on my machine.

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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That's really good @rayek.elfin . As a novice I'll try to understand what you've said! I've never used anything but Firefly so am now truly out of my depth!!

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Mentor ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Removed links as per request.

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Mentor ,
Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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Those are pretty good too! Though no ultrawide views?

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Feb 22, 2024 Feb 22, 2024

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I could do wide; I had just been doing square because that was what the original poster did.

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https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3Ad7d04ae5-904b-4638-8c7c-372dd0b3b9c8&...

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Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024

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Thank you @rayek.elfin that's really helpful, I'll have a look

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Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024

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Firefly modern British City street 99558.jpg

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Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024

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I know I'm still learning but I don't understand why Firefly would create an image that's so illogical. I seem to be spending a lot of time removing unusual elements. This one's scary

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Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024

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https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AEU%3A52dad896-5570-44cd-b4dd-2746d83c31f5&...

 

 

And what’s the French Eiffel Tower doing in a British image?!

I am beginning to think this won’t work for UK images….

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Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024

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Feb 26, 2024 Feb 26, 2024

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Haha, yep its still learning! Just add "eiffel Tower" to the exclusions and your good! The more specific you are the better the output is, i.e. describe the scene, see below prompts

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Mar 03, 2024 Mar 03, 2024

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My list of exclusions is now 10x longer than my original prompt! 
I do accept that Firefly is learning but it's not learning about this side of the Atlantic fast enough for me!!

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Mar 05, 2024 Mar 05, 2024

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I'm really disappointed to find @rayek.elfin post about Krita and how to implement its AI tool is now missing.

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