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trashcaneron
Inspiring
September 25, 2019
Question

HEVC / H265 with Alpha Support in AME

  • September 25, 2019
  • 13 replies
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Apple recently announced support for Alpha with HEVC. This is great news. Does anyone know about it being available in Creative Cloud / Media Encoder. Looking forward to a lightweight / compressed codec that supports Alpha. 

 

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/506/

    13 replies

    LEVEL10
    Participant
    January 5, 2021

    Any update?

    tanzblume
    Known Participant
    April 22, 2021

    At the moment we are using a workaround.
    We are using macOS Catalina (10.15) with Adobe, we are rendering Apple ProRes 4444 with Alpha.
    After rendering open this file with QuickTime and save it as HEVC with transparency.

    Inspiring
    May 29, 2022

    Doesn't work for me. Input is ProRes 4444XQ with alpha, plays fine everywhere, but Export to H265 removes the alpha channel even when "preserve transparency" is ticked.

    Community Manager
    November 15, 2019

    Hi all,

     

    Sorry for the delay in response. The engineering team has kept adding this feature under review. Though there is no news when will this be implemented/added to the application.

     

    tanzblume
    Known Participant
    May 6, 2020

    Are there some new informations about it?

    Thank you

    trashcaneron
    Inspiring
    June 8, 2020

    I can confirm that encoding via finder works but there are limitted options:

    • Resolution can't be manual, must be FHD or UHD
    • Can't control quality
    • No progress bar or queue
    • No controls for frame rate or audio

     

     

    You can follow along in activity monitor but all it really tells you is that the encoding process is active and it only uses the CPU, which is a damn shame. 

    If you select multiple videos and right click to encode, it will convert all of them - but one at a time, and you cannot track progress at all. 

     

    For my test I did a 20 second video, conversion from APR4444+A. The video was just animation of a grid in AE. It took 2 minuts to render, To convert it took 6 minutes for that same file. So it's VERY slow. The codec extension is .mov. 

     

    The size of the file went from 250 MB to 2 MB and the frame rate defaults to the target video. So that's great. 

     

    After Effects and Premiere does not recognize the alpha channel, so this codec really only works as a delivery codec - not a storage codec or editable codec. Though, I suspect Final Cut X does support it - I just haven't used it in 5 years. It's attached to an old apple ID so I need track down that p/w so I can test it. 

     

    I also wante to check to see what programs that I regularly use support the codec with Alpha in playback:

    • Quicktime YES
    • Finder YES
    • MadMapper 3.7.5 YES
    • VLC YES (but can't check for transparency)

     

    Community Manager
    September 28, 2019

    Hi there,

     

    Great news!

    I'll get you update on this soon.

     

    Stay tuned!

     

    Thanks,

    Shivangi

    trashcaneron
    Inspiring
    September 30, 2019
    I'm really looking forward to this. Right now the only compressed codec that supports Alpha that works for Windows and Mac and plays back decently in programs like Isadora, MadMapper, Unity is HAP+Alpha and it takes forever to transcode.
    Community Expert
    January 5, 2021

    Did Unity change something since 2018?  Freelancing at a small all Windows shop, they had to pick up a Mac Mini to import Apple ProRes 4444 with Alpha into Unity.