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willa96182717
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July 26, 2018
Question

After Effects painfully slow on 8700k, 64GB DDR4, GTX1080ti

  • July 26, 2018
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Searched the forum, can't seem to find a direct answer to this.  I have a brand new computer that's 4x slower than the computer I replaced (7700k, 16GB RAM, GTX 1080).  Rendering is meh, preview is slow, and scrubbing is slow, painful and pixelated.  I'm not even doing HD resolution work let alone 4K.

Running CPUID HWMonitor, it looks like the system simply won't utilize all the resources at its disposal, so wondering if it's a tuning issue or software (AE) issue.  When it lags, of the 12 cores, I may see one or two spike up; the rest stay in single digit %.  The RAM load never goes above 15% and I've yet to see the GPU get over a single digit % load, although AE doesn't rely on this as much as CPU. 

Specs:

Thermaltake Core P3 TG Black ATX Open Frame Panoramic Viewing

GIGABYTE Z370XP SLI

i7-8700K Coffee Lake 6-Core 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz Turbo)

EVGA GTX-1080 Ti (nickel backplate)

64GB RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400

Thermalake Grand RGB 750W PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply

EK-XLC Predator 360 CPU cooler

EK-FC1080 GTX GPU cooler

Samsung 850 SSD 1TB

Fujitsu 500GB SSD (cache)

6 Radiator push/pull fans

Windows 10 Professional 64-bit

I updated all drivers and checked NVIDIA settings.  Checked affinity and AE has all 12 cores at its disposal. 

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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    Inspiring
    July 26, 2018

    Many of AE's processes are still single-threaded, and as you say, the GPU isn't utilized as much as the CPU, although each new release adds more GPU-accelerated rewrites of effects.

    The RAM will be used as needed, so you shouldn't expect it to jump to 100% consumption, but I'm afraid that your 8700K's base clock speed is actually slower than the 7700K, The 8700K's base is 3.7 GHz, whereas the 7700K's is 4.2 GHz, which is due to Intel adding to more cores to the same size chip as the previous generation (also, you only have 6 cores, not 12. HyperThreading will count the other 6 as threads, but not actual cores, so if a process isn't built for HyperThreading, then only physical cores count). The Turbo Boost is faster on the Coffee Lake, and I would have expected that to compensate for the clock speed drop, but I wonder if this is part of the problem. The Turbo Boost speed is only for a single-core, so it would make sense that AE would utilize that, but AE also doesn't peg your CPU at 100% for many tasks.

    Check out this Puget Systems article which compares the 8700K to the 7700K, and you'll see that it's nominally faster: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/After-Effects-CC-2017-2-CPU-Performance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1055/

    All this being said, you didn't actually mention what it is you're working on, how you're determining that the new machine is 4x slower, what format your footage is (if you're using footage), what version of AE you're using, and other details about the actual project. That info could shed some light on where the bottleneck is.

    willa96182717
    Participant
    July 26, 2018

    Thank you for your reply.  To your question, I haven't been using footage, I've just been compositing in AE and benchmarking against my other system.  I'm always curious to see improvements in certain effects, like motion blur, or certain plugins, like RSMB and Stardust, that I can always count on to lug my system.  The 4x slower is based on side-by-side observations.  For example, loading the same project and tweaking, say, a motion blur or particle generator parameter (or nudging a comp with these parameters turned on), it takes a few seconds to even see a result while the other system is still basically scrubbing in real-time.  Sometimes the lag is truly painful.  I accept that I might need to drop preview quality to 1/4+ on complex projects, but hanging a comp with one layer running a particle generator in 8bpc?  I haven't had to deal with that since 2009 when I was rubbing sticks together to make fire haha.

    Sounds like there's not much I can do other than buy another system (or start learning Nuke lol).

    Thanks again for your replies.

    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    July 30, 2018

    Hi willa,

    Is your GPU detected in Project Settings? Let us know.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio