Duplicate layers with Puppet pins not working

[zoom4267]

I have a flickering candle with puppet pins.  When I duplicate the layers, the new layers have the KF's but they do not flicker.   I highlighted the pins on the original and copied to the new layers, but that does not work either.   how to copy the pins from original to new layers?   Thank you

[OussK]

i think the easiest way is to copy the puppet effect from layer to other.

[zoom4267]

thank you , but I must be doing that wrong, because I copy the effect to the new layer and that still does not work.

[OussK]

can you share a screenshoot including your work flow with all layer?

[zoom4267]

thank you , here is the screen shot,  its cc2019

[OussK]

Really Puppet tools is very sensitive to the shape where you apply so if you try to copy the puppet effect from one layer to other and there a re any difference in layer size or so you will not be able to get the result you want and you will start see some glitch. the best way is create the puppet on the candle you want than duplicate the candle layer including the puppet effect.

[zoom4267]

I put the pins on the original shape, made the animation.  then duplicated the layers.  the layers are the exact same size .     the pins did not copy

Edit.   I found what I was doing wrong but it created a new problem

When I moved the new layer to the new position,  i did not highlight the pins, so the pins did not move.

new problem :  when I move the pins, the graphic "breaks"

[OussK · Accepted solution]

Yes that what i'm typing before you post you reply right now, so if you move your object the pin will not move so you must precomp the candle and duplicate the precomp layer . to precomp the candle , selected than go to edit/pre-compose

[zoom4267]

wow, thank you so much, that makes sense .    I really appreciate your help !!!!