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Adrien5EE8
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October 3, 2023
Question

EXR Cryptomattes Unusable

  • October 3, 2023
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Why are cryptomattes still so slow/unsuable in AfterEffects 2023? It's been 8 years since they're implementation. We have to use them on a daily basis for post-production work. We have to use Nuke and Fusion to extract the obj id's and then import them back into AfterEffects which is a really ineffective workflow.

Unless I missed something, I can't see any update on the topic since 2018. Could members of the community please bump this to show Adobe this is priority feature to fix.

Thanks

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    ardgaeryar
    Participant
    September 6, 2024

    Cryptomattes are painfully slow! This has been the case for so long, and it's unbelievable that Adobe keeps pushing unnecessary updates instead of fixing basic features.

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      Simon_0815
      Known Participant
      February 2, 2024

      I think the EXR compression matters. Did you try DWAB?

       

      But yeah, Abobe: EXR and Masks should work!!!

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      Adrien5EE8Author
      Participating Frequently
      May 15, 2024

      No different compressions still have the same issue. To be honest it's not even masks or cryptomate, try to load and render a normal exr in AE is just so slow. Would be great to get an update form Adobe??

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        Studio29047935y006
        Participant
        May 28, 2024

        Hi There

         

        Has there been any update on the slow exr cryptos?  

        Why dont you just fix it? Its a massive part of any "compositor"?

        tanks

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          Paul UuCommunity Manager
          Community Manager
          January 30, 2024

          Could you post a simple project and footage that demonstrates the slow performance issue?

          Thx!

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          Adrien5EE8Author
          Participating Frequently
          January 30, 2024

          @Paul Uu Litteraly take any EXR cryptomate. Bring it in AE, single out a matte for one of the object and try to render that. Compare that to doing the same in Nuke or Fusion.

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            Adrien5EE8Author
            Participating Frequently
            January 30, 2024

            Here's an example, mind you this is a very simple/low sized cryptomatte. The one we use normally are usually much larger. And once you add 5 more mattes and adjustement layers with effects etc.. it slows down to the point where it's just not usable.

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            Sven5FD0
            Participating Frequently
            January 17, 2024

            Hi all, I work in a 3D Pipeline, have to use the cryptomattes every day and It is a pain . Please Adobe, fix the enormous preview and rendertimes. Tahnks

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              Sven5FD0
              Participating Frequently
              January 29, 2024

              I often get this error message, AE 23.6.0 & 23.6.2

               

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                Adrien5EE8Author
                Participating Frequently
                November 30, 2023

                Would be nice to get a response from Adobe staff even if it's to say it can't be done.

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                  defaultr4fluhed7ewu
                  Participating Frequently
                  November 30, 2023

                  Definitely agree!  A response of any kind would be welcome.  Fixing this one issue would make a tremendous difference in 3D compositing productivity.

                    jasonj55077727
                    jasonj55077727
                    Participant
                    November 21, 2023

                    Same.  Output EXR's with Crypto from Unreal Engine the other day and they are unusable in AE.  Had to do my comping in Nuke.  Not cool. 

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                      AlexVanDyne
                      Participant
                      November 21, 2023

                      Dear adobe. This is literally something that needs to be fixed. Make this multi -threaded/GPU powered or something because it's literally impossible to work on 4k cryptomattes without it yaking like 1 min per frame to load. And i have a 20,000 machine with cutting edge hardware. Its rediculous and its time ti fix it. 

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                        jarold213
                        Participant
                        November 21, 2023

                        Also having huge issues with cryptomatte speeds!  Did the extra work to flatten all my cryptomattes and it went from 12 hour render to 1 hour.  Please fix!

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                          Cognitive Concepts
                          Participant
                          November 21, 2023

                          I can attest to the frustration that cryptomattes implementation in After Effects has caused on multiple high end commercial projects throughout the years. It cripples iteration time and brings even the most powerful of computers to a crawl. Please help us Adobe team! 

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                            defaultr4fluhed7ewu
                            Participating Frequently
                            November 21, 2023

                            Adobe, please work on making Cryptomattes faster.  In a recent project, it took 12 hours to render a :30 spot using cryptomattes.  With the cryptomattes flattened to ProRes movies, it took 20 minutes.  That's a significant difference and points to major inefficiencies with how cryptomattes are implemented.  This holds true for both up to date PCs and Macs.

                              Multipasser
                              Multipasser
                              Inspiring
                              March 28, 2024

                              It is insane! It is sooo clear adobe has no clue how production pipelines work. Insane they didnt get this near realtime like other programs do. Frustrates me daily.

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