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joao3048
joao3048
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May 18, 2018
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How could I make a Eurovision scoreboard?

  • May 18, 2018
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For the past few years I've been digging into Eurovision and its scoreboards, which seem to have a lot of work behind them.

So this is what I'm talking about:

As the user from How to create a Dynamic Scoreboard said, doing it in After Effects is a lot of work. You've got a lot of layers, and the points and assets change a lot because of the ranking system, and it's basically a scoreboard in which points get awarded by every country, and the layers change into the right ranking order when they get points, from the ones which have the most to the ones which have the least.

Is there a way in After Effects to make a system where you can award the points, and let the system do the animation and ranking work for you automatically? For example with expressions? If there is, how does it work?

I quoted the other user because I honestly don't feel answered with the answers he received and it's basically the same question.

Thank you!

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    Correct answer kentacles

    If I understand correctly, AE is not going to be your friend for this application.

    Instead, you may want to look into programming Nodecg modules.

    These sorts of scoreboards or live updating info panels are not easily automated. Television broadcasts are run by dozens of people at once. However, Nodecg can be utilized to streamline much of the process of getting information displayed on a nice looking set of graphics.

    Live streams like GDQ or Streamlabs is all programmed through Nodecg.

    The good things is, as long as you have the gumption and are technically inclined to learn a bit of programming, it's 100% free.

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    kentaclesCorrect answer
    Participant
    May 18, 2018

    If I understand correctly, AE is not going to be your friend for this application.

    Instead, you may want to look into programming Nodecg modules.

    These sorts of scoreboards or live updating info panels are not easily automated. Television broadcasts are run by dozens of people at once. However, Nodecg can be utilized to streamline much of the process of getting information displayed on a nice looking set of graphics.

    Live streams like GDQ or Streamlabs is all programmed through Nodecg.

    The good things is, as long as you have the gumption and are technically inclined to learn a bit of programming, it's 100% free.

    Dave_LaRonde
    Dave_LaRonde
    Inspiring
    May 18, 2018

    You don't expect After Effects to receive live input and update live for display, do you? 

    If you do, you're asking software that you rent for fifty bucks a month to do the same job as broadcast hardware that sells for about $200K - $500K.  If it could, don't you think broadcasters across the globe would use AE instead?

    Mylenium
    Mylenium
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    May 18, 2018

    You can't get "real" answers if you don't give specific info. Expressions have no inherent magic, hence you still have to tailer each and everyone to the specific property it is applied to. Having two layers swapping positions is a separate thing from reordering the rest of the list and if you want your layers to make specific moves, you'd still have to define a prototype animation which then could be modulated e.g. using expression-driven time-remapping or valueAtTime() functions in the expressions themselves. Again, the devil is in the details and only detailed questions can yield detailed answers. even the new-fangled JSON stuff doesn't change this much, as it is merely a way of feeding in data and parameters, but you'd still have to create the expressiosn that use this info. See why this is complicated? And users having that kind of knowledge simply won'tr write long-winded forum posts or give away complex projects for free, when TV stations pay hefty sums for having experts create their graphics, regardless of what system is used.

    Mylenium

    Jose Panadero
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    Jose PanaderoCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 18, 2018

    In the most recent updates you can add JSON data to drive your animations and yes, you  can do it with After Effects. But this kind of worsk are real time graphics made with other systems for Live TV. One of the most utilized systems for TV is Viz Artist.

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