Render out of AE CC no h.264 option render queue

What exactly is AME used when rendering out compressed files, I'm so confused as to how to compress files without H.264 and I cant find the AME anywhere either.

I'd like to chime in here too with a recent frustration.

My office has both CS6 and CC2017 installed on my machine for reasons I won't get into here. I do a lot of banner work that use MP4 video content. What irks me to no end is that I can export my comps (300x250, 23fps, 15 seconds, usually no audio) out of CS6 to its native h264 renderer and control the quality from a number of angles. In particular, a 0-100 slider for quality where I can dial in the file size, which is of extreme importance in the ad banner world. In a recent case, I was able to export to a 1.2mb file with a decent quality directly from AE CS 6, but if I export from CC2017 to AME, no amount of tweaking I try, including dialing the data rate to it's lowest possible target of .19mb, produces anything less than a 4.2mb file.

What REALLY REALLY frustrates me is that there is absolutely no trusting the Estimated File Size readout at the bottom of the screen, since at the above settings, it tells me the file should be 375k. If I choose to use CC2017, I have to first export out to a lossless file and then open it with a third party application, specifically Quicktime Pro (and on another machine for budgetary reasons) in order to get a good quality, low file size video for use in the banners.

I'd really appreciate an explanation for this.

I'm calling BS on all these excuses from Adobe for removing h.264 encoding from AE.

My understanding is that the use of the h.264 encoder requires software publisher pay a royalty on every copy they sell. While Adobe has had the price of that royalty built into their own pricing model for years they've probably figured out that if they remove it from AE and other programs (Premiere, etc.) and force them all to go through one encoder than those royalties go strait on their profit margins.

Money is always the motive for this kind of corporate ignorance. I'm not impressed.

ofc it is intentional this way you force more people to buy or pay for access to AME. before we could just use AE to handle it all and it was working perfectly fine, now Adobe is gutting the app to force it's users to pay more for more applications.

Problems:

[I'm just about to move to CC from 5.5]

1.No clear history visible with dates etc and files rendered.

For example, seeing reduction in render times as you optimize a scene.

2.No easy CTRL +d to duplicate a render.

3.Having to use 2 apps to render different formats = more time

4.Any scripting shortcuts are null and void. I used to have an email mp4 auto add to a render

as a script. It also disrupts my workflow with background rendering with background renderer (Alvarez)

and scripting with Autodesk Backburner.

5.It's an annoyance as it forces me to use another app unecessarily. I

would have loved the buggy code until it was replaced on your roadmap.

6.All my templates have to be re-setup again to suit AME.

Thanks

Alan.

I would recommend avoiding the QuickTime container for H.264. Just use the H.264 format in Adobe Media Encoder (it creates an MP4); it even has presets for YouTube.

ok Thanks!

Ok... so no h264 in AE anymore.. but I am a cloud user and I don't see Adobe Media Encoder available for download and install. Do I not have the option to get this program through creative cloud?

As there was no direct answer and only people sending you to other links here it is:
just go to Edit -> Preferences -> output -> enable Show Deprecated Formats.

I hate to go trough AME too.. those who say after effects is not good to export h.264 are not worthy of even using AE in my opinion.. it always exported nice and faster than media encoder for me.

cheers